2018-2019 GP SELECTION

Re: 2018-2019 GP SELECTION

Postby bumphystars » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:49 pm

chuckiem wrote:
bumphystars wrote:Huh, so by your logic, Ladies can apply to a 14 year old girl but Women can't?

Congrats to the ISU and anyone else who thinks that makes sense, but I do not. And I'm proud of Canada for taking a more modern approach, using a term that isn't loaded by outdated associations of what a female should be and how they should behave. The rest of the world should do the same.

Also, there ARE mens skaters who technically not adults as well. What should they be called?

As for cheering for all skaters, I totally agree that it makes the sport more enjoyable. We should all cheer for good skating!


I am SO tired of political correctness being applied willy-nilly to everything.
In figure skating, the terms LADIES, MEN, PAIRS, ICE DANCE are labels that signify separate and distinct disciplines, period. They are not meant to have any meaning other than that. Apparently in Canada offense is taken at the label "Ladies", so that has been changed in Canada. However, there has apparently been no global offense taken, so the ISU hasn't changed its label, and even the political-offense-oversensitive US hasn't objected to it either, so no change here.


We will agree to disagree here. Your own logic—that it's ladies because there are females younger than 18—is faulty, as I pointed out. And I'm CERTAIN that there is global offence taken to the term, but the US (and the ISU, hardly a bastion of progressive values) has simply not caught up. In time, they will. Until then, I'll continue to point it out on random internet chat boards. ;)

As for Finland, happy to see them jump back into the Grand Prix, and hope that their participation will fuel the growth of the sport there.
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Re: 2018-2019 GP SELECTION

Postby chuckiem » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:11 pm

Bumphy---c'mon now---you can't be certain that the world agrees with you! And you don't live in the US, so you have no idea how ridiculously politically correct things are here. What I do know is that USFS hasn't objected to the term LADIES and there's been no groundswell of indignation among FS fans to change it to WOMEN.

If I were you, I wouldn't hold my breath while waiting for the ISU or any other large FS federation to follow Canada's extirpation of "Ladies".
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Re: 2018-2019 GP SELECTION

Postby bumphystars » Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:43 pm

Like I said, agree to disagree. And definitely not interested in going any further into politics when we are talking about figure skating—a decidedly more enjoyable topic to me (and you too, I suspect).
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Re: 2018-2019 GP SELECTION

Postby chuckiem » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:46 pm

OK---but just remember: you introduced the topic. No one else has ever complained about ISU terminology.

Anyway, keep an eye posted for the SUMMER COMPETITION thread, because there are a few good ones coming up soon, including Skate Milwaukee, which is a joint US/Canada Novice competition 7/11-15, and Skate Detroit 7/17 which has several Canadian entries including in the large Pairs competition.

And of course the big ISU-credited Lake Placid Ice Dance competition starts 7/24, followed by Minto on 7/26 and the ISU-credited Philadelphia International on 7/30.
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Re: 2018-2019 GP SELECTION

Postby Andy » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:58 am

Sui/Han withdrew from their GP events :shock:
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