2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby chuckiem » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:35 pm

START ORDER MEN SHORT PROGRAM Fri 11/15 2 pm local time / 6 am EST

1 Makar IGNATOV RUS
2 Daniel SAMOHIN ISR
3 Vladimir LITVINTSEV AZE
4 Alexei KRASNOZHON USA
5 Kazuki TOMONO JPN
6 Nam NGUYEN CAN

7 Morisi KVITELASHVILI GEO
8 Michal BREZINA CZE
9 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT
10 Alexander SAMARIN RUS
11 Shoma UNO JPN
12 Dmitri ALIEV RUS

Tech Team

Ref Louesdon-FRA
TC Zonnekeyn-BEL
TS Agnafors-SWE
ATS Tokaji-Kulcsar-HUN

Judges: LAT SUI CAN USA RUS FRA AZE GEO JPN

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START ORDER RHYTHM DANCE Fri 11/15 4 pm local time / 8 am EST

1 Anastasia SHPILEVAYA / Grigory SMIRNOV RUS
2 Adelina GALYAVIEVA / Louis THAURON FRA
3 Jasmine TESSARI / Francesco FIORETTI ITA
4 Anastasia SKOPTCOVA / Kirill ALESHIN RUS
5 Allison REED / Saulius AMBRULEVICIUS LTU

6 Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA CAN
7 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP
8 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksim SPODYRIEV POL
9 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN
10 Viktoria SINITSINA / Nitika KATSALAPOV RUS

Tech Team

Ref Mast-USA
TC Andreeva-RUS
TS Elek-HUN
ATS Grincova-SVK

Judges: ITA FRA POL ESP GEO GER LTU RUS CAN

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START ORDER LADIES SHORT PROGRAM Fri 11/15 6:30 pm local time / 10:30 am EST

1 Emmi PELTONEN FIN
2 Hongyi CHEN CHN
3 Yuhana YOKOI JPN
4 Nicole SCHOTT GER
5 Ekaterina RYABOVA AZE
6 Alexa PAGANINI SUI

7 Alexandra TRUSOVA RUS
8 Yuna SHIRAIWA JPN
9 Stanislava KONSTANTINOVA RUS
10 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS
11 Mariah BELL USA
12 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN

Tech Team

Ref Walder-SUI
TC Vuylsteker-FRA
TS Tokaji-Kulcsar-HUN
ATS Agnafors-SWE

Judges: AUT BEL CHN USA JPN FRA RUS AZE SUI

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START ORDER PAIRS SHORT PROGRAM Fri 11/15 8:30 pm local time / 12:30 pm EST

1 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Andrey NOVOSELOV RUS
2 Rebecca GHILARDI / Filippo AMBROSINI ITA
3 Audrey LU / Misha MITROFANOV USA
4 Evelyn WALSH / Trennt MICHAUD CAN

5 Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT
6 Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nolan SEEGERT GER
7 Aleksandra BOIKOVA / Dmitrii KOZLOVSKII RUS
8 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV RUS

Ref Louesdon-FRA
TC Zonnekeyn-BEL
TS Kokoev-RUS
ATS Tewanian-POL

Judges: LTU LAT AUT CAN ITA GER BEL USA RUS

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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby chuckiem » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:42 pm

RESULTS MEN SHORT PROGRAM

1 Alexander SAMARIN RUS 92.81 51.20 42.61 8.82 8.32 8.43 8.54 8.50 1.00 10 4z+3t, 4f↓, 3a
2 Dmitri ALIEV RUS 90.64 48.18 42.46 8.46 8.32 8.61 8.50 8.57 0.00 12 3z+3t, 4t, 3a
3 Makar IGNATOV RUS 87.54 50.79 36.75 7.54 7.04 7.39 7.46 7.32 0.00 1 4s+3t, 4t, 3a
4 Shoma UNO JPN 87.29 44.49 43.80 8.93 8.54 8.79 8.79 8.75 1.00 11 4f<↓, 4t+2t, 3a
5 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 87.08 44.89 42.19 8.29 8.21 8.54 8.54 8.61 0.00 9 3f+3t, 3z, 3a
6 Nam NGUYEN CAN 87.01 46.47 40.54 8.07 7.75 8.25 8.18 8.29 0.00 6 4s+3t, 3a, 3f
7 Kazuki TOMONO JPN 80.98 43.19 38.79 7.79 7.39 7.86 7.82 7.93 1.00 5 4t↓, 4s+3t<, 3a
8 Michal BREZINA CZE 80.27 39.91 41.36 8.29 8.07 8.25 8.36 8.39 1.00 8 4s↓, 3f+3t, 3a
9 Morisi KVITELASHVILI GEO 75.87 36.83 39.04 8.00 7.68 7.75 7.86 7.75 0.00 7 4s+2t, 3a, 2t*
10 Alexei KRASNOZHON USA 75.46 39.75 36.71 7.39 7.07 7.39 7.36 7.50 1.00 4 4f<↓, 3a, 3f+3lo
11 Daniel SAMOHIN ISR 56.94 23.00 35.94 7.43 7.18 6.79 7.36 7.18 2.00 2 3a<↓, 4s<↓, 2z+2t*
12 Vladimir LITVINTSEV AZE 54.42 22.63 33.79 6.93 6.57 6.64 6.86 6.79 2.00 3 4s<↓, 4t<↓-nc, 1a*


START ORDER MEN FREE SKATE Sat 11/16 1:30 pm local time / 5:30 am EST

1 Vladimir LITVINTSEV AZE
2 Daniel SAMOHIN ISR
3 Alexei KRASNOZHON USA
4 Morisi KVITELASHVILI GEO
5 Michal BREZINA CZE
6 Kazuki TOMONO JPN

7 Shoma UNO JPN
8 Nam NGUYEN CAN
9 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT
10 Dmitri ALIEV RUS
11 Makar IGNATOV RUS
12 Alexander SAMARIN RUS

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RESULTS RHYTHM DANCE

1 Viktoria SINITSINA / Nitika KATSALAPOV RUS 86.09 47.96 38.13 9.43 9.39 9.64 9.64 9.57 0.00 10
2 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN 82.56 45.47 37.09 9.11 9.18 9.32 9.39 9.36 0.00 9
3 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 72.01 38.82 33.19 8.18 8.07 8.43 8.39 8.43 0.00 7
4 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksim SPODYRIEV POL 69.97 37.22 32.75 8.07 8.07 8.18 8.36 8.25 0.00 8
5 Allison REED / Saulius AMBRULEVICIUS LTU 69.79 39.39 30.40 7.57 7.46 7.64 7.79 7.54 0.00 5
6 Anastasia SHPILEVAYA / Grigory SMIRNOV RUS 67.04 37.56 29.48 7.29 7.25 7.46 7.43 7.43 0.00 1
7 Anastasia SKOPTCOVA / Kirill ALESHIN RUS 66.52 36.87 29.65 7.39 7.25 7.46 7.50 7.46 0.00 4
8 Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA CAN 64.70 34.59 30.11 7.57 7.46 7.43 7.75 7.43 0.00 6
9 Adelina GALYAVIEVA / Louis THAURON FRA 63.22 34.30 28.92 7.14 7.00 7.36 7.32 7.32 0.00 2
10 Jasmine TESSARI / Francesco FIORETTI ITA 62.68 34.87 27.81 6.79 6.71 7.07 7.11 7.07 0.00 3


START ORDER FREE DANCE Sat 11/16 3:40 pm local time / 7:40 am EST

1 Jasmine TESSARI / Francesco FIORETTI ITA
2 Adelina GALYAVIEVA / Louis THAURON FRA
3 Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA CAN
4 Anastasia SKOPTCOVA / Kirill ALESHIN RUS
5 Anastasia SHPILEVAYA / Grigory SMIRNOV RUS

6 Allison REED / Saulius AMBRULEVICIUS LTU
7 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksim SPODYRIEV POL
8 Viktoria SINITSINA / Nitika KATSALAPOV RUS
9 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN
10 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP

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RESULTS LADIES SHORT PROGRAM

1 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS 76.93 40.27 36.66 36.66 8.96 8.89 9.25 9.36 9.36 0.00 10 3f+3t, 2a, 3lo
2 Alexandra TRUSOVA RUS 74.21 40.29 33.92 8.29 8.32 8.61 8.64 8.54 0.00 7 2a, 3f, 3z+3t
3 Mariah BELL USA 67.11 34.75 33.36 8.43 8.14 8.29 8.43 8.43 1.00 11 2a, 3f+3t↓, 3z
4 Alexa PAGANINI SUI 65.12 35.20 29.92 7.39 7.32 7.57 7.57 7.54 0.00 6 3z+3t, 3lo, 2a
5 Ekaterina RYABOVA AZE 64.01 35.47 28.54 7.18 6.86 7.21 7.18 7.25 0.00 5 3z!+3t, 2a, 3f
6 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN 63.09 28.55 34.54 8.75 8.43 8.50 8.79 8.71 0.00 12 2z*, 2a, 3lo+2t
7 Yuna SHIRAIWA JPN 60.57 29.51 31.06 7.96 7.57 7.64 7.86 7.79 0.00 8 3z!-so, 2a, 3lo+2t
8 Nicole SCHOTT GER 57.29 28.75 28.54 7.18 6.96 7.11 7.25 7.18 0.00 4 3t+3t-2hd, 2a, 3lo<
9 Hongyi CHEN CHN 57.17 29.46 27.71 6.89 6.68 6.96 7.11 7.00 0.00 2 3t+3t<, 3z!-so, 2a
10 Yuhana YOKOI JPN 56.51 28.37 29.14 7.39 6.93 7.29 7.46 7.36 1.00 3 3f↓, 2a, 3z!+2t
11 Stanislava KONSTANTINOVA RUS 54.36 25.85 30.51 7.68 7.39 7.54 7.79 7.75 2.00 9 2a, 3z↓, 3f!+2t, time
12 Emmi PELTONEN FIN 52.46 24.65 28.81 7.29 7.00 7.07 7.29 7.36 1.00 1 3t+3t↓, 1lo*, 2a


START ORDER LADIES FREE SKATE Sat 11/16 5:30 pm local time / 9:30 am EST

1 Yuhana YOKOI JPN
2 Stanislava KONSTANTINOVA RUS
3 Emmi PELTONEN FIN
4 Hongyi CHEN CHN
5 Nicole SCHOTT GER
6 Yuna SHIRAIWA JPN

7 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN
8 Alexa PAGANINI SUI
9 Ekaterina RYABOVA AZE
10 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS
11 Mariah BELL USA
12 Alexandra TRUSOVA RUS

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RESULTS PAIRS SHORT PROGRAM

1 Aleksandra BOIKOVA / Dmitrii KOZLOVSKII RUS 80.14 45.36 34.78 8.57 8.57 8.86 8.82 8.64 0.00 7
2 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV RUS 76.81 41.12 35.69 8.93 8.82 8.79 9.07 9.00 0.00 8
3 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Andrey NOVOSELOV RUS 68.74 36.05 32.69 8.18 7.96 8.11 8.32 8.29 0.00 1
4 Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nolan SEEGERT GER 67.74 36.74 31.00 7.64 7.68 7.79 7.82 7.82 0.00 6
5 Evelyn WALSH / Trennt MICHAUD CAN 62.76 34.31 28.45 7.11 6.96 7.14 7.18 7.18 0.00 4
6 Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT 61.84 32.42 29.42 7.39 7.18 7.32 7.46 7.43 0.00 5
7 Rebecca GHILARDI / Filippo AMBROSINI ITA 55.08 29.76 26.32 6.57 6.36 6.57 6.75 6.64 1.00 2
8 Audrey LU / Misha MITROFANOV USA 54.03 28.24 26.79 6.71 6.50 6.68 6.96 6.64 1.00 3


START ORDER PAIRS FREE SKATE Sat 11/16 7:45 pm local time / 11:45 am EST

1 Audrey LU / Misha MITROFANOV USA
2 Rebecca GHILARDI / Filippo AMBROSINI ITA
3 Evelyn WALSH / Trennt MICHAUD CAN
4 Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT

5 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Andrey NOVOSELOV RUS
6 Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nolan SEEGERT GER
7 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV RUS
8 Aleksandra BOIKOVA / Dmitrii KOZLOVSKII RUS

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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby chuckiem » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:41 pm

RESULTS MEN FREE SKATE

1 Alexander SAMARIN RUS 171.64 84.86 86.78 8.79 8.43 8.71 8.75 8.71 0.00 12 4z+3t, 3f!, 3t, 3a, 3a+2t, 3z+2t, 3lo
2 Dmitri ALIEV RUS 169.24 82.88 86.36 8.79 8.46 8.68 8.68 8.57 0.00 10 3z, 3t, 4t+3t, 4t, 3a, 3z+eu+3s, 3lo+2t
3 Makar IGNATOV RUS 165.33 85.31 80.02 8.11 7.79 8.11 8.07 7.93 0.00 11 4s, 4t, 3a, 3f+3t, 3z+3t, 3z+eu+1s, 3lo
4 Shoma UNO JPN 164.95 80.17 86.78 8.96 8.68 8.43 8.71 8.61 2.00 7 4s↓, 3a, 3lo, 4t, 3s+3t, 3a+eu+3f<, 4t<↓+rep
5 Morisi KVITELASHVILI GEO 161.72 81.80 79.92 8.00 7.71 8.04 8.14 8.07 0.00 4 4s+3t, 3a, 4t+1t, 3lo, 2t, 3f+eu+3s, 3f
6 Nam NGUYEN CAN 159.19 77.91 81.28 8.07 7.86 8.25 8.14 8.32 0.00 8 4s+3t, 2s, 3z, 3a+2t, 3a+eu<<+3s, 3lo, 3f
7 Kazuki TOMONO JPN 156.56 74.92 81.64 8.18 7.86 8.21 8.21 8.36 0.00 6 4t+2t, 2s, 3a+3t, 3lo, 3a, 3z!+eu+2s, 2f
8 Michal BREZINA CZE 156.20 73.00 83.20 8.36 8.07 8.39 8.32 8.46 0.00 5 4s, 3a+2t, 3f+2t, 3z, 3a, 3f, 2lo
9 Vladimir LITVINTSEV AZE 154.65 83.81 71.84 7.36 6.89 7.39 7.14 7.14 1.00 1 4t+3t, 4t, 3a+2t, 3a, 3f+eu+3s<-hd, 2a, 3lo, time
10 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 154.01 71.79 83.22 8.25 8.04 8.39 8.36 8.57 1.00 9 3a<↓, 3t+2t, 3lo, 3a<+2t, 3z+eu+3s, 3f, 3z
11 Alexei KRASNOZHON USA 140.82 70.46 71.36 7.21 6.86 7.29 7.14 7.18 1.00 3 4f<, 3a+2t, 3a↓, 3s, 3f+3lo, 3z+2t, 3z
WD Daniel SAMOHIN ISR



FINAL STANDINGS MEN

1 - Alexander SAMARIN RUS 264.45 1 1 Qualified GPF
2 - Dmitri ALIEV RUS 259.88 2 2
3 - Makar IGNATOV RUS 252.87 3 3
4 - Shoma UNO JPN 252.24 4 4
5 - Nam NGUYEN CAN 246.20 6 6
6 - Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 241.09 5 10
7 - Morisi KVITELASHVILI GEO 237.59 9 5
8 - Kazuki TOMONO JPN 237.54 7 7
9 - Michal BREZINA CZE 236.47 8 8
10 - Alexei KRASNOZHON USA 216.28 10 11
11 - Vladimir LITVINTSEV AZE 209.07 12 9
R Daniel SAMOHIN ISR 11

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RESULTS FREE DANCE

1 Viktoria SINITSINA / Nitika KATSALAPOV RUS 126.06 69.17 56.89 9.43 9.25 9.54 9.54 9.64 0.00 8
2 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN 125.08 69.08 56.00 9.11 9.14 9.46 9.50 9.46 0.00 9
3 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 113.00 62.74 50.26 8.21 8.11 8.50 8.50 8.57 0.00 10
4 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksim SPODYRIEV POL 108.73 59.40 49.33 8.07 8.04 8.39 8.25 8.36 0.00 7
5 Anastasia SHPILEVAYA / Grigory SMIRNOV RUS 105.89 59.93 45.96 7.54 7.29 7.82 7.79 7.86 0.00 5
6 Allison REED / Saulius AMBRULEVICIUS LTU 105.64 59.01 46.63 7.75 7.50 7.89 7.86 7.86 0.00 6
7 Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA CAN 105.20 59.27 45.93 7.61 7.46 7.71 7.75 7.75 0.00 3
8 Adelina GALYAVIEVA / Louis THAURON FRA 101.57 56.94 44.63 7.29 7.18 7.54 7.61 7.57 0.00 2
9 Anastasia SKOPTCOVA / Kirill ALESHIN RUS 98.12 53.60 44.52 7.39 7.21 7.50 7.54 7.46 0.00 4
10 Jasmine TESSARI / Francesco FIORETTI ITA 91.76 50.31 41.45 6.75 6.68 7.00 7.11 7.00 0.00 1


FINAL STANDINGS ICE DANCE

1 - Viktoria SINITSINA / Nitika KATSALAPOV RUS 212.15 1 1 QUALIFIED GPF
2 - Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN 207.64 2 2 QUALIFIED GPF
3 - Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 185.01 3 3
4 - Natalia KALISZEK / Maksim SPODYRIEV POL 178.70 4 4
5 - Allison REED / Saulius AMBRULEVICIUS LTU 175.43 5 6
6 - Anastasia SHPILEVAYA / Grigory SMIRNOV RUS 172.93 6 5
7 - Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA CAN 169.90 8 7
8 - Adelina GALYAVIEVA / Louis THAURON FRA 164.79 9 8
9 - Anastasia SKOPTCOVA / Kirill ALESHIN RUS 164.64 7 9
10 - Jasmine TESSARI / Francesco FIORETTI ITA 154.44 10 10

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RESULTS LADIES FREE SKATE

1 Alexandra TRUSOVA RUS 160.26 95.34 66.92 8.29 8.25 8.39 8.54 8.36 2.00 12 4s<↓, 4z, 4t+3t, 2a, 4t+eu+3s, 3z+3lo↓,
2 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS 148.83 74.77 74.06 9.18 9.04 9.39 9.32 9.36 0.00 10 3ze, 3s+3lo, 3f, 2a, 2a+3t+2t, 3f+2t, 3lo
3 Mariah BELL USA 138.56 68.80 69.76 8.64 8.54 8.79 8.82 8.82 0.00 11 3f+3t, 3lo, 3s, 2a, 3f+2t, 3z!+2t, 3z!
4 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN 129.33 59.88 70.45 8.86 8.68 8.71 8.89 8.89 1.00 7 2a, 3z+3t<, 3lo<, 3s, 3f<↓, 3z<, 2a+3t<+2t
5 Yuhana YOKOI JPN 126.17 67.40 59.77 7.57 7.21 7.54 7.50 7.54 1.00 1 2a, 3z, 3lo↓, 3f!, 3s+3t, 3z+2t, 2a+3t+2t
6 Ekaterina RYABOVA AZE 123.76 64.64 59.12 7.46 7.14 7.46 7.50 7.39 0.00 9 3ze+3t, 3lo, 3f, 3s, 2a, 2a+3t, 3z!+2t+2t
7 Hongyi CHEN CHN 118.60 60.83 57.77 7.25 6.93 7.25 7.39 7.29 0.00 4 3t+3t<, 2a+eu+3s, 3lo, 3z!+2t, 3z!<, 3f<, 2a
8 Nicole SCHOTT GER 114.79 56.84 57.95 7.25 7.11 7.29 7.32 7.25 0.00 5 3f+2t, 2a, 3f<, 3lo, 3lo+1lo, 3s+2t+2lo, 2a
9 Alexa PAGANINI SUI 114.57 55.03 59.54 7.61 7.21 7.46 7.46 7.46 0.00 8 3z+3t, 3z, 3s-so, 2a, 3lo+2t+2lo<, 3t+2t, a
10 Yuna SHIRAIWA JPN 109.46 51.18 58.28 58.28 7.54 7.14 7.04 7.50 7.21 0.00 6 3z, 3s+3t<-so, 3f!<-so, 2a<+3t<, 3s<+eu+2s, 3lo
11 Stanislava KONSTANTINOVA RUS 102.58 44.74 57.84 7.29 7.00 7.18 7.36 7.32 0.00 2 3lo, 3f!<+3t<, 3z<, 2a+eu+2s, 2z, 3f<, 2a
12 Emmi PELTONEN FIN 100.04 43.30 56.74 7.25 6.89 6.93 7.18 7.21 0.00 3 3t+2t, 1z, 2a+eu+3s, 1lo, 3lo+2t, 3t, 1a



FINAL STANDINGS LADIES

1 - Alexandra TRUSOVA RUS 234.47 2 1 QUALIFIES GPF
2 - Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS 225.76 1 2
3 - Mariah BELL USA 205.67 3 3
4 - Satoko MIYAHARA JPN 192.42 6 4
5 - Ekaterina RYABOVA AZE 187.77 5 5
6 - Yuhana YOKOI JPN 182.68 10 6
7 - Alexa PAGANINI SUI 179.69 4 9
8 - Hongyi CHEN CHN 175.77 9 7
9 - Nicole SCHOTT GER 172.08 8 8
10 - Yuna SHIRAIWA JPN 170.03 7 10
11 - Stanislava KONSTANTINOVA RUS 156.94 11 11
12 - Emmi PELTONEN FIN 152.50 12 12

As a result of the ROSTELECOM outcome, it appears that BRADIE TENNELL will make the GPF.
TRUSOVA and SCHERBAKOVA have already made the final, and next week it's anticipated that KOSTORNAIA, KIHIRA and ZAGITOVA will qualify as well. Bradie becomes the last qualifier, winning the tiebreak among those with 22 points:

22 (13+09) 427.45 TENNELL
22 (13+09) 403.60 MIYAHARA
22 (11+11) 418.56 BELL
22 (11+11) 415.07 TUKTAMYSHEVA

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RESULTS PAIRS FREE SKATE

1 Aleksandra BOIKOVA / Dmitrii KOZLOVSKII RUS 149.34 76.48 72.86 9.00 9.00 9.29 9.18 9.07 0.00 8
2 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV RUS 139.96 68.64 71.32 9.07 8.86 8.79 9.04 8.82 0.00 7
3 Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nolan SEEGERT GER 118.42 57.19 62.23 7.79 7.61 7.79 7.89 7.82 1.00 6
4 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Andrey NOVOSELOV RUS 108.77 46.24 63.53 8.07 8.00 7.64 8.14 7.86 1.00 5
5 Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT 120.18 59.93 60.25 7.50 7.36 7.57 7.61 7.61 0.00 4
6 Evelyn WALSH / Trennt MICHAUD CAN 106.20 52.26 55.94 7.11 6.89 6.82 7.18 6.96 2.00 3
7 Rebecca GHILARDI / Filippo AMBROSINI ITA 107.68 53.04 54.64 6.79 6.64 6.86 7.00 6.86 0.00 2
8 Audrey LU / Misha MITROFANOV USA 99.58 50.11 50.47 6.43 6.25 6.11 6.54 6.21 1.00 1


FINAL STANDINGS PAIRS

1 - Aleksandra BOIKOVA / Dmitrii KOZLOVSKII RUS 229.48 1 1 QUALIFIED GPF
2 - Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV RUS 216.77 2 2
3 - Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nolan SEEGERT GER 186.16 4 3
4 - Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT 182.02 6 4
5 - Ksenia STOLBOVA / Andrey NOVOSELOV RUS 177.51 3 5
6 - Evelyn WALSH / Trennt MICHAUD CAN 168.96 5 7
7 - Rebecca GHILARDI / Filippo AMBROSINI ITA 162.76 7 6
8 - Audrey LU / Misha MITROFANOV USA 153.61 8 8

TARASOVA / MOROZOV have 24 points and must wait for the NHK results to see if they qualify.
At NHK there are two pairs with 15 points each, and one pair with 13 points.
If the two with 15 points finish 1st and 2nd and the pair with 13 points does not finish 3rd, Tarasova / Morozov qualify automatically.
However, if the two with 15 points finish 1st and 2nd and the pair with 13 points (Moore-Towers/Marinaro) does finish third, then there would be a tie-break situation:
If MT/M score 210.58 points or more, they qualify for the GPF and T/M become first alternates.

If M/TM finish 1st or 2nd and one of the 15-pointers finish 3rd, then all three teams will have 26 points or more, and Tarasova / Morozov cannot qualify for the GPF


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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby Virginia » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:49 am

Tarasova/Morozov have execrable music this year in the LP. Here's hoping they don't make the final; I'm not sure I can listen to it again.

I didn't think they could pick something worse than Candyman, but they came close.
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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby JimSlate71 » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:20 am

I get that Trusova has quads, and the points system with TES...….but the result of this competition is disturbing to me. I found Trusova's program lackluster, even with the quads sprinkled in there, the falls were distracting, and the long skating around the rink to setup the quads were boring....and she comes from behind to win by a significant margin over a clean Medvedeva. System overhaul needed.
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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby Dragonlady » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:40 pm

It would be helpful if the judges weren't gifting her on PCS marks. Her skating is not worthy of 8's in skating skills, or choreography. Medved herself was getting 9's when she skated her entire program in the center of the ice without ever going to the ends of the rink. The ability to rotate in the air is not indicative of the ability to skate, to move in concert with the music and express a program. Absent the big jumps, Trusova would be getting 6's and 7's for her skating skills, and choreography. And I say this as someone who loves Trusova.

The larger difficulty is that it's hard to beat someone who can score 20 points in a single jumping pass - consistently.
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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby Jonas » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:57 pm

Yay, some discussion!! :D

I only saw some of the ladies.

Sadly, I've kinda resigned myself to the apparent fact that, sometimes, the judges just kinda game the judging system to overzealously and excessively reward the "it" skater(s) of the moment. First it was Medvedeva, then Zagitova, then now the quad tweenies Scherbakova and Trusova.

Medvedeva, IMO, is a much stronger overall skater now than she was when she was just dominating the scene -- better ice coverage, more flow and speed in and out of the jumps, yet she's kinda been passed, so she's not scoring anywhere near the egregious marks she was being doled out.

Trusova, OTOH, can rotate these quads and she's scoring off the charts. Not only am I NOT sold on her PCS, some of her Grades of Execution on those quads are definitely too much! I don't fault her and her team for playing the game, nor do I lament her winning because the math on the technical side is just very clearly to her favor and should be rewarded. However, yes, she is clearly NOT a senior skater in the other important stuff departments.

Nice to see Mariah Bell really stepping up her role as one of the US's most reliable ladies' competitors. Technical aside (not that she doesn't have the goods here), there's something very genuine and heartfelt about the way she performs.

Boikova & Kozlovskii are really trying to establish themselves as Russia's new #1 team. Love watching them! I've seen many a Russian pair w/nicer lines and better posture (Koz in particular here), but the packaging is great! I like his bravado combined w/her more relaxed, yet equally strong, presence on the ice.

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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby bumphystars » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:46 pm

Sadly, this mucking around with PCS is an old story by now, and it has, frankly, turned me off of the women's event altogether.

It's hugely impressive that these young girls can do these jumps of course. But none of them stick around for long, and that's not so good for the sport, IMO. Fans can't invest in one of them because it's too heartbreaking to see them cast aside a season or two later. Plus, they all look the same to me. There is nothing that distinguishes one from the other in terms of choreography, and none of them actually look like women on the ice. In fact, they look like girls who are in for a lifetime of body image issues and physical ailments! I find it boring and sad and as a result have mostly just stopped watching.

(Exception is Alena Kostornaia, who is a special talent and I so wish she'd get the heck away from Eteri so she can have a long career that includes skating past her 18th birthday. Her double axel is right up there with Kurt Browning at his peak. :D )
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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby Dragonlady » Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:49 pm

Yes, the PCS being doled out to little girls with big jumps and little else, is an old, old story by now. The problem isn't that these girls are "cast aside" a year or two later, it's that a year or two later they develop hips and breast, which changes their centres of gravity and slows rotations, and suddenly Zagitova is getting under-rotation calls. I'm waiting for the judges to notice that Zagitova breaks at the waist and pumps her back while stroking, and her PCS to drop to the low 8's where it belongs.
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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby bumphystars » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:55 pm

Exactly, DL, they are cast aside because they become women and are no longer jumping machines. It's no longer the women's event, it's the girl's event. And if I wanted that I would just watch the junior competitions!
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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby sms29s66 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:40 am

Question: If GoE scores are supposed to range from -5.00 to +5.00 why am I seeing scores of -5.20? And did it seem like the judges were handing out a lot of extremely low GoE''s at this competition?
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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby tennisfan » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:21 am

sms29s66 wrote:Question: If GoE scores are supposed to range from -5.00 to +5.00 why am I seeing scores of -5.20? And did it seem like the judges were handing out a lot of extremely low GoE''s at this competition?

The GOE represents, at least in pairs & singles, a percentage of the base value of the element - +1 is 10%, +2 is 20%, and so on. So if an element is worth more than 10 points, than the maximum GOE is going to more than five points, so for example, a quad lutz is worth 11.50 and so the maximum GOE is 5.75.
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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby tennisfan » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:26 am

Virginia wrote:Tarasova/Morozov have execrable music this year in the LP. Here's hoping they don't make the final; I'm not sure I can listen to it again.

I didn't think they could pick something worse than Candyman, but they came close.


I don't know, I thought this year was better than in the past.
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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby chuckiem » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:47 pm

What makes Boikova / Kozlovski great to watch is the strong connection between them, and how much they enjoy skating together. Sadly, that can't be said for Tarasova / Morozov, who look more like two singles skaters who happen to be on the ice at the same time, and aren't that happy about it.
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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby Andy » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:56 am

bumphystars wrote:Exactly, DL, they are cast aside because they become women and are no longer jumping machines. It's no longer the women's event, it's the girl's event. And if I wanted that I would just watch the junior competitions!


on a sad note, Alina Zagitova withdrew form the Russian CHampionships. My understanding of the Russian language is way below limited, however it seems as if she is suspending (temporrarily?) her sports career. Alina is 17.

https://tass.com/sport/1099391

A subsequent communication seems to point to the fact that the suspension is indeed temporary:

https://tass.com/sport/1099521

In my opinion we are looking at another JuLip case.

I think the ISU should take a long, hard look in the mirror.
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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby Jonas » Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:26 pm

IMO, I would compare Zagitova to fellow Olympic Champion Adelina Sotnikova. I would not be surprised in the least if Zagitova ultimately never returns to competition. It's been reported that Zagitova herself hinted that it's becoming increasingly difficult for her to want to compete. She's won everything there is to win and part of her has to feel resigned to the fact that it is unlikely for her to surpass her training mates who are 3Axeling and multiple quad jumping their way to the top. Zagitova is indeed only 17 and she could up her ante to compete if she wanted to, but that'll also prove to be difficult, I'm sure, because she's clearly got more T&A than she did when she won in Pyeongchang.

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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby Andy » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:46 pm

I would compare ALina to JuLip since they are victims of the same perverted system: judges decide to ignore clear technical flaws and award PCS that do not correspond to the level of the skater and the program. This way, on one side the tech flaws are not addressed, on the other more skaters are pushed to follow the same 'magic formula' that allowed results not matching the real technical and artistic level of the skaters. Tutberidze girls are clones of each other, with the vast majority of them being discarded as soon as the puberty begins. The discard is due to the fact that judges prize junior skaters (when lucky without technical flaws) skating junior-ish programs in senior competitions.
The moment the body transforms into that of a lady and/or the technical flaws begin to take the obvious toll on a more mature body type, the skaters are no longer competitive. Both JuLip and ALina, at the moment of their best results, were two flawed skater with junior programs, exciting as they may have been. IN particular, Alina's were also poorly constructed: it is not a coincidence that rules were put in place with regards to how many jumps could be executed in the second half of the program.
Where were the judges when 9's were awarded for a back loaded program? Where were the judges when pre-rotated 2A received +2/+3 goes? Why was Alina never marked correctly for her posture? What judges decide to ignore is that marking correctly defends the sports and the health of these girls.
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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby chuckiem » Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:23 pm

It is Alina's posture and jump technique that would make it extremely difficult for her to learn 3-1/2 to 4 rotations. She starts all her jumps by bending over---that has worked OK for standard triple jumps, but I don't see how bending down can in any way set up for 3a or quad. At the GPF, when she bent down to execute 2a, she nearly fell right on her face.
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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby bumphystars » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:17 pm

I don't think that Eteri has the ability to teach proper technique that will allow her skaters to turn their jumps past the point of puberty. So she essentially treats them as disposable, with no regard whatsoever for their long-term health (or longevity in the sport).

This is really bad for the sport because fans want someone who they can follow and root for over a long period. Fans want greatness and growth.

As I said above, I'm not really interested in women's skating anymore, it's boring and predictable. Agree that the ISU needs to wake up and fix this.
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Re: 2019 ROSTELECOM CUP 11/15-17 Moscow RUS

Postby Dragonlady » Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:50 am

This rewarding of flawed technique has been going on for the past 30 years. That's why the technical panel is calling under-rotations, and edges - because judges were rewarding under-rotated jumps with errors on take-offs and landing edges.

I strongly disagree that Zagitova can increase her rotations now that she has curves. Physics is not her friend. Juniors have been landing quads since Miki Ando, but not one of the female quadsters has retained the quad past puberty. Mau Asada is one of the few women to retain her triple axel into seniors, but she has a slimmer frame for faster rotations.
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