Re: 2019 NHK TROPHY 11/22-24 Sapporo JPN
Posted:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:26 pmby chuckiem
RESULTS RHYTHM DANCE
1 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillame CIZERON FRA 90.03 51.20 38.83 9.64 9.54 9.75 9.79 9.82 0.00 8
2 Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN RUS 84.07 47.49 36.58 9.07 8.96 9.07 9.32 9.29 0.00 9
3 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA 82.13 46.47 35.66 8.93 8.75 8.86 8.96 9.07 0.00 7
4 Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON GBR 76.09 42.92 33.17 8.11 7.93 8.54 8.46 8.43 0.00 4
5 Christina CARRERA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA 75.25 42.20 33.05 8.18 8.04 8.32 8.39 8.39 0.00 6
6 Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIU CHN 74.73 42.16 32.57 8.00 7.75 8.32 8.43 8.21 0.00 5
7 Sofia SHEVCHENKO / Igor EREMENKO RUS 69.59 39.59 30.00 7.46 7.25 7.57 7.71 7.50 0.00 2
8 Lorraine McNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA 68.80 38.43 30.37 7.57 7.39 7.57 7.71 7.71 0.00 1
9 Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN 68.39 37.45 30.94 7.71 7.57 7.89 7.82 7.68 0.00 3
START ORDER FREE DANCE Sat 11/23 12:15 pm local time / Fri 11/22 10:15 pm EST
1 Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN
2 Lorraine McNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA
3 Sofia SHEVCHENKO / Igor EREMENKO RUS
4 Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIU CHN
5 Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON GBR
6 Christina CARRERA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA
7 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA
8 Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN RUS
9 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillame CIZERON FRA
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RESULTS PAIRS SHORT PROGRAM
1 Wenjin SUI / Cong HAN CHN 81.27 43.84 37.43 9.29 9.18 9.32 9.50 9.50 0.00 5
2 Kirsten MOORE-TOWERS / Michael MARINARO CAN 71.21 37.26 33.95 8.57 8.36 8.46 8.54 8.50 0.00 7
3 Anastasia MISHINA / Aleksandr GALLIAMOV RUS 69.00 38.60 30.40 7.86 7.50 7.57 7.64 7.43 0.00 4
4 Alisa EFIMOVA / Alexander KOROVIN RUS 64.94 35.71 29.23 7.46 7.14 7.29 7.36 7.29 0.00 2
5 Alexa SCIMECA-KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM USA 63.63 33.23 31.40 8.14 7.75 7.54 8.00 7.82 1.00 3
6 Riku MIURA / Ryuichi KIHARA JPN 62.41 34.76 27.65 6.93 6.64 7.04 7.04 6.93 0.00 1
7 Tarah KAYNE / Danny O'SHEA USA 58.70 29.12 29.58 7.54 7.32 7.36 7.43 7.32 0.00 6
8 Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE ITA 57.55 26.55 31.00 7.89 7.71 7.61 7.86 7.68 0.00 8
START ORDER PAIRS FREESKATE Sat 11/23 2:35 pm local time / 12:35 am EST
1 Tarah KAYNE / Danny O'SHEA USA
2 Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE ITA
3 Riku MIURA / Ryuichi KIHARA JPN
4 Alexa SCIMECA-KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM USA
5 Anastasia MISHINA / Aleksandr GALLIAMOV RUS
6 Alisa EFIMOVA / Alexander KOROVIN RUS
7 Kirsten MOORE-TOWERS / Michael MARINARO CAN
8 Wenjin SUI / Cong HAN CHN
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RESULTS LADIES SHORT PROGRAM
1 Alena KOSTORNAIA RUS 85.04 49.38 35.66 8.82 8.79 9.00 9.04 8.93 0.00 9 3a, 3z, 3f+3t
2 Rika KIHIRA JPN 79.89 44.44 35.45 8.89 8.64 8.86 9.00 8.93 0.00 12 3a, 3f+3t, 3lo
3 Karen CHEN USA 67.21 35.44 31.77 7.96 7.68 7.93 8.07 8.07 0.00 5 3z+2t, 2a, 3lo
4 Alina ZAGITOVA RUS 66.84 31.15 35.69 8.96 8.71 8.82 9.11 9.00 0.00 10 3z, 2a, 3f+1lo*
5 Mako YAMASHITA JPN 65.70 35.99 29.71 7.54 7.18 7.50 7.46 7.46 0.00 8 3z+3t, 2a, 3lo
6 Eunsoo LIM KOR 65.28 33.42 32.86 8.29 8.00 8.14 8.32 8.32 1.00 7 3z<+3t<↓, 3f, 2a
7 Sofia SAMODUROVA RUS 63.85 32.67 31.18 7.79 7.54 7.82 7.96 7.86 0.00 11 3f+3t<, 3lo, 2a
8 Yuhana YOKOI JPN 62.67 33.22 29.45 7.43 7.07 7.43 7.46 7.43 0.00 2 3f, 2a, 3z!+3t
9 Starr ANDREWS USA 58.92 28.89 30.03 7.57 7.43 7.54 7.43 7.57 0.00 6 3t+3t, 2a, 1lo*
10 Kailani CRAINE AUS 55.82 27.80 28.02 6.96 6.68 7.11 7.14 7.14 0.00 3 3lo+2t, 2a, 3z!<
11 Mae Berenice MEITE FRA 49.77 22.69 28.08 7.00 6.71 7.04 7.18 7.18 1.00 4 2a, 3f<↓, 3z+1t*
12 Megan WESSENBERG USA 44.78 20.50 26.28 6.71 6.32 6.46 6.68 6.68 2.00 1 3z!<↓, 3t↓-nc, 2a
START ORDER LADIES FREESKATE Sat 11/23 4:50 pm local time / 2:50 am EST
1 Kailani CRAINE AUS
2 Mae Berenice MEITE FRA
3 Megan WESSENBERG USA
4 Sofia SAMODUROVA RUS
5 Yuhana YOKOI JPN
6 Starr ANDREWS USA
7 Mako YAMASHITA JPN
8 Alina ZAGITOVA RUS
9 Eunsoo LIM KOR
10 Rika KIHIRA JPN
11 Alena KOSTORNAIA RUS
12 Karen CHEN USA
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RESULTS MEN SHORT PROGRAM
1 Yuzuru HANYU JPN 109.34 61.23 48.11 9.61 9.50 9.68 9.68 9.64 0.00 11 4s, 3a, 4t+3t
2 Kevin AYMOZ FRA 91.47 47.72 43.75 8.61 8.64 8.75 8.89 8.86 0.00 9 4t, 3z+3t, 3a
3 Sergei VORONOV RUS 88.63 47.60 41.03 8.21 7.82 8.43 8.21 8.36 0.00 8 4t+3t, 3z, 3a
4 Roman SADOVSKY CAN 78.51 39.15 39.36 8.04 7.68 7.75 7.89 8.00 0.00 1 4s, 3a, 3z+1t*
5 Makar IGNATOV RUS 78.47 42.71 36.76 7.54 7.11 7.36 7.43 7.32 1.00 5 4s+3t, 4t, 3a<<↓
6 Koshiro SHIMADA JPN 75.98 40.72 37.26 7.54 7.25 7.36 7.57 7.54 2.00 6 3a, 4t↓, 3z+3t, ↓steps
7 Sota YAMAMOTO JPN 74.88 36.97 37.91 7.79 7.29 7.61 7.61 7.61 0.00 4 4s+3t, 2t*, 3a
8 Jason BROWN USA 73.73 32.45 43.28 8.86 8.64 8.32 8.75 8.71 2.00 10 3f, 3a<↓, 3z↓-nc
9 Anton SHULEPOV RUS 71.76 36.51 35.25 7.11 6.93 6.93 7.21 7.07 0.00 2 3f, 2a, 3z+3t<
10 Conrad ORZEL CAN 70.35 36.96 34.39 7.11 6.75 6.82 6.96 6.75 1.00 3 4t<↓, 3z+3t, 3a
11 Tomoki HIWATASHI USA 64.54 31.25 35.29 7.00 7.00 6.86 7.14 7.29 2.00 7 4t↓, 3a↓, 3z+3t<
12 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR 61.97 25.83 37.14 7.50 7.14 7.32 7.61 7.57 1.00 12 1a*, 4t↓, 3z+2t
START ORDER MEN FREE SKATE Sat 11/23 7:25 pm local time / 5:25 am EST
1 Conrad ORZEL CAN
2 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR
3 Tomoki HIWATASHI USA
4 Jason BROWN USA
5 Sota YAMAMOTO JPN
6 Anton SHULEPOV RUS
7 Koshiro SHIMADA JPN
8 Roman SADOVSKY CAN
9 Makar IGNATOV RUS
10 Yuzuru HANYU JPN
11 Kevin AYMOZ FRA
12 Sergei VORONOV RUS
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Re: 2019 NHK TROPHY 11/22-24 Sapporo JPN
Posted:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:40 pmby chuckiem
RESULTS FREE DANCE
1 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillame CIZERON FRA 136.58 77.40 59.18 9.82 9.68 9.86 9.96 10.00 0.00 9
2 Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN RUS 124.74 69.33 55.41 9.11 9.14 9.32 9.29 9.32 0.00 8
3 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA 115.93 64.37 52.56 8.82 8.71 8.71 8.75 8.82 1.00 7
4 Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON GBR 116.92 66.94 49.98 8.04 8.04 8.50 8.57 8.50 0.00 5
5 Sofia SHEVCHENKO / Igor EREMENKO RUS 108.49 60.98 47.51 7.71 7.71 8.00 8.07 8.11 0.00 3
6 Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIU CHN 108.38 60.25 48.13 8.04 7.79 8.07 8.07 8.14 0.00 4
7 Christina CARRERA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA 107.01 58.18 48.83 8.11 8.07 8.04 8.29 8.18 0.00 6
8 Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN 103.62 57.25 46.37 7.68 7.50 7.75 7.82 7.89 0.00 1
9 Lorraine McNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA 101.41 56.37 46.04 7.79 7.50 7.64 7.75 7.68 1.00 2
FINAL STANDINGS ICE DANCE
1 - Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillame CIZERON FRA 226.61 1 1
2 - Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN RUS 208.81 2 2
3 - Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA 198.06 3 4
4 - Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON GBR 193.01 4 3
5 - Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIU CHN 183.11 6 6
6 - Christina CARRERA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA 182.26 5 7
7 - Sofia SHEVCHENKO / Igor EREMENKO RUS 178.08 7 5
8 - Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN 172.01 9 8
9 - Lorraine McNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA 170.21 8 9
GRAND PRIX FINAL RESULTS ICE DANCE
30 [15+15] 448.75 PAPADAKIS / CIZERON FRA
30 [15+15] 422.05 SINITSINA / KATSALAPOV RUS
28 [15+13] 416.65 GILLES / POIRIER CAN
28 [15+13] 415.86 HUBBELL / DONOHUE USA
26 [13+13] 415.38 STEPANOVA / BUKIN RUS
26 [13+13]413.39 CHOCK / BATES USA
Alternates:
22 [11+11] 401.40 GUIGNARD / FABBRI ITA
22 [11+11] 388.27 FOURNIER-BEAUDRY / SORENSEN CAN
20 [11+09] 388.36 FEAR / GIBSON GBR
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RESULTS PAIRS FREE SKATE
1 Wenjin SUI / Cong HAN CHN 145.69 71.91 74.78 9.29 9.14 9.39 9.54 9.39 1.00 8
2 Kirsten MOORE-TOWERS / Michael MARINARO CAN 137.28 66.41 70.87 8.68 8.75 8.93 8.93 9.00 0.00 7
3 Alisa EFIMOVA / Alexander KOROVIN RUS 124.40 62.59 61.81 7.82 7.64 7.75 7.79 7.64 0.00 6
4 Anastasia MISHINA / Aleksandr GALLIAMOV RUS 134.35 71.60 62.75 8.04 7.61 8.00 7.82 7.75 0.00 5
5 Alexa SCIMECA-KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM USA 109.70 51.18 60.52 7.79 7.61 7.14 7.75 7.54 2.00 4
6 Riku MIURA / Ryuichi KIHARA JPN 117.53 60.15 58.38 7.39 6.96 7.32 7.43 7.39 1.00 3
7 Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE ITA 113.88 53.74 61.14 7.71 7.46 7.50 7.79 7.75 1.00 2
8 Tarah KAYNE / Danny O'SHEA USA 120.03 60.79 59.24 7.39 7.21 7.46 7.50 7.46 0.00 1
FINAL STANDINGS PAIRS
1 - Wenjin SUI / Cong HAN CHN 226.96 1 1
2 - Kirsten MOORE-TOWERS / Michael MARINARO CAN 208.49 2 2
3 - Anastasia MISHINA / Aleksandr GALLIAMOV RUS 203.35 3 3
4 - Alisa EFIMOVA / Alexander KOROVIN RUS 189.34 4 4
5 - Riku MIURA / Ryuichi KIHARA JPN 179.94 6 5
6 - Tarah KAYNE / Danny O'SHEA USA 178.73 7 6
7 - Alexa SCIMECA-KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM USA 173.33 5 7
8 - Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE ITA 171.43 8 8
GRAND PRIX FINAL RESULTS PAIRS
30 [15+15] 455.33 SUI / HAN CHN
30 [15+15] 446.19 BOIKOVA / KOZLOVSKII RUS
28 [15+13] 400.86 PENG / JIN CHN
26 [15+11] 410.93 MISHINA / GALLIAMOV RUS
26 [13+13] 416.98 MOORE-TOWERS / MARINARO CAN
26 [13+13] 403.54 PAVLIUCHENKO / KHODYKIN RUS
Alternates:
24 [11+13] 419.06 TARASOVA / MOROZOV RUS
22 [11+11] 392.10 DENNEY / FRAZIER USA
18 [07+11] 383.20 ILYUSHECHKINA / BILODEAU CAN
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RESULTS LADIES FREE SKATE[/b]
1 Alena KOSTORNAIA RUS 154.96 82.61 72.35 8.96 8.96 9.11 9.07 9.11 0.00 11 3a+2t, 3a<, 2a, 3lo, 3f+3t, 3f+eu+3s, 3z
2 Rika KIHIRA JPN 151.95 79.43 72.52 9.00 8.86 9.21 9.14 9.11 0.00 10 3s, 3a+2t, 3f, 3a, 3f+3t<, 2a+2t+2lo, 3lo
3 Alina ZAGITOVA RUS 151.15 77.31 73.84 9.07 9.04 9.36 9.32 9.36 0.00 8 3z+3lo, 2a+3t, 3s, 2a, 3z, 3f<+2t+2lo, 3f
4 Yuhana YOKOI JPN 126.87 64.59 62.28 7.82 7.50 7.89 7.79 7.93 0.00 5 2a, 2z, 3lo, 3f, 3s+3t, 3z+2t, 2a+2t+2t*
5 Mako YAMASHITA JPN 123.55 63.71 59.84 7.68 7.36 7.43 7.54 7.39 0.00 7 3z+3t, 2a, 3lo, 3s+2t+2lo, 3z+2t, 3f!<, 2a
6 Sofia SAMODUROVA RUS 119.42 61.00 58.42 7.43 7.07 7.36 7.36 7.29 0.00 4 3f+3t<, 3z!, 3lo, 3f<, 2a+3t, 3s<+2t+2lo, 2a
7 Mae Berenice MEITE FRA 110.21 55.50 55.71 7.04 6.64 6.96 7.07 7.11 1.00 3 2a+3t, 3z+2t, 3f, 3lo, 3s, 3z<↓, 2a+2t
8 Kailani CRAINE AUS 109.64 54.48 55.16 7.00 6.68 6.93 6.93 6.93 0.00 1 3f<, 3z!+2t, 2a+eu+3s<, 3lo, 3z!, 3lo+2t, 2a
9 Eunsoo LIM KOR 109.19 46.69 62.50 8.21 7.82 7.50 7.82 7.71 0.00 9 3z!↓, 3lo, 3f^2a, 3s<, 3f+2t, 3z!<↓+rep
10 Starr ANDREWS USA 107.80 52.38 57.42 7.39 7.11 7.07 7.25 7.07 2.00 6 3t+3t<↓, 3f, 2a, 3ze<, 3;2t. 2a+eu+3s<, 3lo<↓
11 Karen CHEN USA 98.49 39.36 61.13 7.89 7.68 7.32 7.75 7.57 2.00 12 3z, 3fe<, 2a+1t, 2s, 2a^3s<<↓, 3z<↓+rep 3lo<<
12 Megan WESSENBERG USA 86.95 37.61 51.34 6.64 6.14 6.46 6.46 6.39 2.00 2 2z!, 3t↓, 3s↓, 1a, 3t+2t+2lo, 2s+2t, 2a<
[b]FINAL STANDINGS LADIES
1 - Alena KOSTORNAIA RUS 240.00 1 1
2 - Rika KIHIRA JPN 231.84 2 2
3 - Alina ZAGITOVA RUS 217.99 4 3
4 - Yuhana YOKOI JPN 189.54 8 4
5 - Mako YAMASHITA JPN 189.25 5 5
6 - Sofia SAMODUROVA RUS 183.27 7 6
7 - Eunsoo LIM KOR 172.47 6 10
8 - Starr ANDREWS USA 166.72 9 9
9 - Karen CHEN USA 165.70 3 11
10 - Kailani CRAINE AUS 165.46 10 8
11 - Mae Berenice MEITE FRA 159.98 11 7
12 - Megan WESSENBERG USA 131.73 12 12
GRAND PRIX FINAL RESULTS LADIES
30 [15+15] 476.00 Alena KASTORNAIA RUS
30 [15+15] 475.49 Alexandra TRUSOVA RUS
30 [15+15] 453.80 Anna SHCHERBAKOVA RUS
26 [13+13] 462.17 Rika KIHIRA JPN
24 [13+11] 434.05 Alena ZAGITOVA RUS
22 [13+09] 427.45 Bradie TENNELL USA
Alternates:
22 [13+09] 403.60 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN
22 [11+11] 418.56 Mariah BELL USA
22 [11+11] 415.07 Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA RUS
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RESULTS MEN FREE SKATE
1 Yuzuru HANYU JPN 195.71 101.57 94.14 9.43 9.32 9.43 9.43 9.46 0.00 8 4lo, 4s, 3z, 4t, 2t, 4t+3t<, 3a+eu+3s
2 Roman SADOVSKY CAN 168.99 85.49 83.50 8.46 8.11 8.29 8.39 8.50 0.00 9 4s, 3f, 3a+2t, 3lo, 4s+eu+3s<, 3a, 3z
3 Kevin AYMOZ FRA 158.55 70.19 88.36 8.79 8.82 8.68 8.96 8.93 0.00 12 4t<-to, 3t, 3a-hd, 3lo, 3a+3t, 3z+eu+2s*, 3f
4 Jason BROWN USA 157.54 72.16 87.38 8.79 8.75 8.50 8.86 8.79 2.00 11 3a+2t, 3t, 3a↓, 3f, 3z!+eu+3s, 3f+2t, 3lo<↓
5 Sota YAMAMOTO JPN 151.39 75.95 75.44 7.79 7.11 7.57 7.57 7.68 0.00 1 4s+2t, 2s, 4t, 3a, 3a+2t, 3z!, 3f+eu+3s
6 Sergei VORONOV RUS 150.42 69.70 80.72 8.29 7.75 8.21 8.11 8.00 0.00 10 4t+3t, 1a, 3a+2t, 3lo, 3z, 2z, 3s+2t
7 Anton SHULEPOV RUS 146.62 72.92 73.70 7.46 7.14 7.39 7.43 7.43 0.00 3 3f, 3z+3t, 3a+2t, 2a, 3a, 3z+eu+2s, 3lo
8 Makar IGNATOV RUS 143.98 72.70 72.28 7.50 7.04 7.14 7.32 7.14 1.00 7 4s, 4t, 3a, 3f+3t, 3z+3t<, 3z, 3lo+eu+2s, ↓spin
9 Tomoki HIWATASHI USA 142.76 71.90 70.86 7.07 6.79 7.07 7.32 7.18 0.00 2 4t, 4t+3t, 3a, 3s, 1a, 3z+eu+3f, 3lo
10 Koshiro SHIMADA JPN 137.67 64.11 74.56 7.54 7.14 7.46 7.64 7.50 1.00 4 4t↓, 3a+2t, 3lo, 3f, 3z<+3t, 3a<, 3z+eu+2s
11 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR 135.66 62.50 73.16 7.36 7.04 7.29 7.43 7.46 0.00 6 4t, 3a, 3z+3t, 3lo, 2a+2t, 3f+eu+2s, 3f
12 Conrad ORZEL CAN 125.99 60.15 66.84 6.89 6.43 6.57 6.89 6.64 1.00 5 4s, 3lo, 4t, 3a+2t, 3a^3s<*, 3z↓, 3z-so+1t*
FINAL STANDINGS MEN
1 - Yuzuru HANYU JPN 305.05 1 1
2 - Kevin AYMOZ FRA 250.02 2 3
3 - Roman SADOVSKY CAN 247.50 4 2
4 - Sergei VORONOV RUS 239.05 3 6
5 - Jason BROWN USA 231.27 8 4
6 - Sota YAMAMOTO JPN 226.27 7 5
7 - Makar IGNATOV RUS 222.45 5 8
8 - Anton SHULEPOV RUS 218.38 9 7
9 - Koshiro SHIMADA JPN 213.65 6 10
10 - Tomoki HIWATASHI USA 207.30 11 9
11 - Alexei BYCHENKO ISR 197.63 12 11
12 - Conrad ORZEL CAN 196.34 10 12
GRAND PRIX FINAL RESULTS MEN
30 [15+15] 627.64 Yuzuru HANYU JPN
30 [15+15] 596.25 Nathan CHEN USA
28 [13+15] 529.55 Alexander SAMARIN RUS
24 [11+13] 513.43 Dmitri ALIEV RUS
24 [11+13] 504.66 Kevin AYMOZ FRA
20 [05+15] 486.51 Boyang JIN CHN
Alternates:
20 [13+07] 508.91 Nam NGUYEN CAN
20 [13+07] 486.36 Jason BROWN USA
18 [11+09] 483.64 Keiji TANAKA JPN
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Re: 2019 NHK TROPHY 11/22-24 Sapporo JPN
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Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:25 pmby Dragonlady
Of all of the Russian Super Girls, Kostornaia is the only one that I think has a hope of retaining her jumps once she hits puberty. We see Zagitova struggling to achieve full rotations now that her body is curvier, and I don't hold out much hope for Trusova getting through puberty with her quads intact, but Kostornaia has much better technique and overall skating skills than either of Zagitova or Trusova. But her biggest advantage in keeping her jumps is her fine boned, naturally lean body type.
Zagitova really seems to be struggling. She looks slow, her positions are weak, and her moves lack finish. In the Olympic year, she seemed to be floating over the ice with ease. These programs looked like a slog through wet sand.
Re: 2019 NHK TROPHY 11/22-24 Sapporo JPN
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Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:38 pmby Dragonlady
NOTE TO NBC: Now that the music has lyrics, and people are singing and playing music, please stop the commentators from talking over the singing. You can't tell what's being sung or said. It's just a cacaphony. Wait until the music moves into an instrumental section, or better yet, make these comments during the replays.
Re: 2019 NHK TROPHY 11/22-24 Sapporo JPN
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Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:54 pmby bumphystars
Agree that Kostornaia has the best shot of making it beyond the next season or so. For the reasons you mention, but also because she has an innate musicality that the other Russian girls lack. Would be so awesome to see a Lori Nichol or Shae-Lynne Bourne program on her!
Re: 2019 NHK TROPHY 11/22-24 Sapporo JPN
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Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:47 pmby Jonas
Completely agree re: Kostornaia. She has better overall technique than her two younger training mates, yet she has the easiest program jumpwise. She also trumps her two training mates in PCS by a mile, if you ask me. It's gonna be really interesting to watch Eteri's trio in Torino going head to head to head.
Had Roman Sadovsky not had those two errors, he would've easily won silver here. Greater takeaway I guess is that he's now a legit contender for the Canadian title along w/Nam Nguyen and Keegan Messing. Like Nam, Sadovsky has won a Grand Prix medal and can be really good when he's on, but on the converse side, he's probably just as likely to tank to mediocrity as Nam often does.
Watched the top three pairs:
Even with the fall, Sui & Han were the class of the field here. They skate w/an extra swagger that the rest of the field here simply doesn't quite have. This is NOT to say, however, that they can flop like that going up against Boikova & Kozlovski, who've been really consistent and red hot this season, at the Grand Prix Final.
Nice to see Moore-Towers and Marinaro skate up to their billing as THE top Canadian pair.
Mishina & Galliamov are another promising and seemingly hungry team from Russia -- really, they're on par technically w/Boikova & Kozlovskii. They were hardly happy after his mistake on the sbs 3Sal in the SP. Whistle clean technically in the FS, but I sensed that they were a little disappointed at their score. Good thing is that I think they're aware that they do need to work on the PCS. They've got time and talent on their hands.
Your thoughts...
Re: 2019 NHK TROPHY 11/22-24 Sapporo JPN
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Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:34 pmby Dragonlady
Although I’ve been a Sadovsky fan since he first started skating junior, I’m not going to get too excited until I see some kind of real consistency. Roman has moments of brilliance, but they’re too few and far between to this point. I’ve never recovered from the emotional roller coaster that was Sandhu.
Re: 2019 NHK TROPHY 11/22-24 Sapporo JPN
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Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:30 amby sms29s66
I'm confused again!!! I understand that one must have a combination in the short program. I think I understand that if a skater does not do a combination he will receive zero points for that third jumping pass. Okay. I saw a couple of short program skaters get zero points for popping a quad into a double, so I know it happens. Why, then, when Jason Brown fell on his last jumping pass and never even had a chance to make it a combo, did Ashley Wagner talk about him getting only a percentage of the base value blah blah blah/
Re: 2019 NHK TROPHY 11/22-24 Sapporo JPN
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Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:22 amby chuckiem
Double jumps other than 2a are illegal in a senior SP--that's why a quad popped to a double in the SP gets 0. Same for 1a, or for a triple jump that has been downgraded, such as 3lo<<. But in the case of a fall on a triple or quad intended to be in combination, but the skater falls on the first jump, as long as the triple/quad isn't rated <<, the skater does get some credit for that first jump. That's why it shows on the protocol as 3z+COMBO.