2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby chuckiem » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:00 am

STARTING ORDER SHORT DANCE Mon Feb 19 10 am local time / Sun Feb 18 8 pm EST

1 Cortney MANSOUROVA / Michal CESKA CZE
2 Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR
3 Kavita LORENZ / Joti POLIZOAKIS GER
4 Adel TANKOVA / Ronald ZILBERBERG ISR

5 Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO OAR
6 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC FRA
7 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP
8 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR
9 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND GBR

**** **** **** **** **** ZAMBONI **** **** **** **** ****

10 Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIU CHN
11 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Lukas CSOLLEY SVK
12 Yura MIN / Alexander GAMELIN KOR
13 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV POL
14 Kana MURAMOTO / Chris REED JPN

15 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA
16 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN
17 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN
18 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI USA
19 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES USA

**** **** **** **** **** ZAMBONI **** **** **** **** ****

20 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN
21 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA
22 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA
23 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV OAR
24 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA

Tech Team

Ref Wolter-GER
TC Selby-GBR
TS Grincova-SVK
ATS Yang-KOR

Judges: TBA at time of competition
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby Thaliana » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:55 pm

Maleeva wrote:There were a few questionable scores last night (I’m looking at you-the judges who gave 9s to Jin for interpretation and Kolyada for Performance) but overall I cannot complain about the results. In particular so happy for Javi finally getting his coveted Olympic medal.


According to media reports, the chinese judge gave notably higher marks to Jin which has been noticed by the ISU and will be investigated after the Olympics.

http://sport.orf.at/pyeongchang2018/#/stories/2289050/ (sorry, it's in german)
Translated: The chinese judge Chen Weiguang has attracted attention at the Men's Event at the Olympic Winter games in Pyeongchang with ununsual marks. As part of the 9-member judge panel he evaluated his countrymen Jin Boyang on Saturday extremely well. He gave the fourth place finisher 10 times the highest grade of execution (plus 3). In the PCS he kept only barely under the highest possible mark of 10 and varied between 9.25 and 9.5 - the other judges remained clearly under that.
With that Chen's mark not only did not count - the highest and lowest marks of the nine judges are discarded - Chen also has to fear a possible ban of multiple years. The disciplinary comission of the ISU will probably deal with this case after the Olympics.
... the article closes with citing a statement of the ISU about the monitoring of the judges' work.

Looking at the protocol, that was probably judge 7, who also gave notably lower PCS to Uno and Fernandez than the other judges. Though with Kolyada, he was in the range.
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby chuckiem » Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:12 am

RESULTS SHORT DANCE

1 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN 83.67 44.53 39.14 9.68 9.61 9.93 9.79 9.93 0.00 20
2 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 81.93 42.71 39.22 9.71 9.71 9.82 9.89 9.89 0.00 21
3 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 77.75 40.98 36.77 9.29 9.04 9.25 9.14 9.25 0.00 22
4 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI USA 77.73 40.33 37.40 9.36 9.18 9.46 9.36 9.39 0.00 18
5 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 76.57 40.00 36.57 8.93 8.96 9.32 9.14 9.36 0.00 24
6 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV OAR 75.47 38.36 37.11 9.18 9.14 9.46 9.29 9.32 0.00 23
7 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES USA 75.45 39.39 36.06 8.93 8.86 9.04 9.11 9.14 0.00 19
8 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN 74.33 37.65 36.68 9.18 8.96 9.29 9.14 9.29 0.00 17
9 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN 69.60 34.95 34.65 8.64 8.46 8.71 8.79 8.71 0.00 16
10 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND GBR 68.36 34.70 33.66 8.36 8.14 8.50 8.54 8.54 0.00 9
11 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA 68.16 34.19 33.97 8.46 8.43 8.50 8.46 8.61 0.00 15
12 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 66.93 35.07 31.86 8.00 7.57 8.18 7.86 8.21 0.00 7
13 Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO OAR 66.47 34.15 32.32 8.04 7.79 8.21 8.07 8.29 0.00 5
14 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV POL 66.06 34.65 31.41 7.79 7.61 8.04 7.86 7.96 0.00 13
15 Kana MURAMOTO / Chris REED JPN 63.41 32.87 30.54 7.61 7.46 7.71 7.68 7.71 0.00 14
16 Yura MIN / Alexander GAMELIN KOR 61.22 32.94 28.28 6.96 6.82 7.21 7.18 7.18 0.00 12
17 Kavita LORENZ / Joti POLIZOAKIS GER 59.99 31.39 28.60 7.21 6.86 7.25 7.21 7.21 0.00 3
18 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC FRA 59.97 31.18 28.79 7.39 7.00 7.29 7.14 7.18 0.00 6
19 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Lukas CSOLLEY SVK 59.75 31.40 28.35 7.11 6.79 7.25 7.11 7.18 0.00 11
20 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR 59.42 29.64 29.78 7.46 7.32 7.54 7.61 7.29 0.00 8
21 Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR 57.97 27.26 30.71 7.64 7.46 7.75 7.79 7.75 0.00 2
22 Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIU CHN 57.81 29.28 29.53 7.39 7.25 7.43 7.43 7.43 1.00 10
23 Cortney MANSOUROVA / Michal CESKA CZE 53.53 29.11 24.42 6.29 5.93 6.14 6.25 5.93 0.00 1
24 Adel TANKOVA / Ronald ZILBERBERG ISR 46.66 23.85 22.81 5.75 5.61 5.75 5.86 5.54 0.00 4
1 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN 83.67 44.53 39.14 9.68 9.61 9.93 9.79 9.93 0.00 20
2 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 81.93 42.71 39.22 9.71 9.71 9.82 9.89 9.89 0.00 21
3 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 77.75 40.98 36.77 9.29 9.04 9.25 9.14 9.25 0.00 22
4 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI USA 77.73 40.33 37.40 9.36 9.18 9.46 9.36 9.39 0.00 18
5 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 76.57 40.00 36.57 8.93 8.96 9.32 9.14 9.36 0.00 24
6 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV OAR 75.47 38.36 37.11 9.18 9.14 9.46 9.29 9.32 0.00 23
7 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES USA 75.45 39.39 36.06 8.93 8.86 9.04 9.11 9.14 0.00 19
8 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN 74.33 37.65 36.68 9.18 8.96 9.29 9.14 9.29 0.00 17
9 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN 69.60 34.95 34.65 8.64 8.46 8.71 8.79 8.71 0.00 16
10 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND GBR 68.36 34.70 33.66 8.36 8.14 8.50 8.54 8.54 0.00 9
11 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA 68.16 34.19 33.97 8.46 8.43 8.50 8.46 8.61 0.00 15
12 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 66.93 35.07 31.86 8.00 7.57 8.18 7.86 8.21 0.00 7
13 Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO OAR 66.47 34.15 32.32 8.04 7.79 8.21 8.07 8.29 0.00 5
14 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV POL 66.06 34.65 31.41 7.79 7.61 8.04 7.86 7.96 0.00 13
15 Kana MURAMOTO / Chris REED JPN 63.41 32.87 30.54 7.61 7.46 7.71 7.68 7.71 0.00 14
16 Yura MIN / Alexander GAMELIN KOR 61.22 32.94 28.28 6.96 6.82 7.21 7.18 7.18 0.00 12
17 Kavita LORENZ / Joti POLIZOAKIS GER 59.99 31.39 28.60 7.21 6.86 7.25 7.21 7.21 0.00 3
18 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC FRA 59.97 31.18 28.79 7.39 7.00 7.29 7.14 7.18 0.00 6
19 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Lukas CSOLLEY SVK 59.75 31.40 28.35 7.11 6.79 7.25 7.11 7.18 0.00 11
20 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR 59.42 29.64 29.78 7.46 7.32 7.54 7.61 7.29 0.00 8

FINAL NOT REACHED:
21 Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR 57.97 27.26 30.71 7.64 7.46 7.75 7.79 7.75 0.00 2
22 Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIU CHN 57.81 29.28 29.53 7.39 7.25 7.43 7.43 7.43 1.00 10
23 Cortney MANSOUROVA / Michal CESKA CZE 53.53 29.11 24.42 6.29 5.93 6.14 6.25 5.93 0.00 1
24 Adel TANKOVA / Ronald ZILBERBERG ISR 46.66 23.85 22.81 5.75 5.61 5.75 5.86 5.54 0.00 4

JUDGES FOR SD: CAN RUS UKR FRA JPN TUR ITA USA ISR

START ORDER FREE DANCE Tue Feb 20 10 am local time / Mon Feb 19 8pm EST

1 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC FRA
2 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Lukas CSOLLEY SVK
3 Kavita LORENZ / Joti POLIZOAKIS GER
4 Yura MIN / Alexander GAMELIN KOR
5 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR

6 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA
7 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV POL
8 Kana MURAMOTO / Chris REED JPN
9 Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO OAR
10 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP

***** ***** ***** ***** ZAMBONI ***** ***** ***** *****

11 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN
12 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND GBR
13 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN
14 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES USA
15 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV OAR

16 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA
17 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI USA
18 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA
19 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA
20 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN

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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby rosima » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:31 am

Shouldn’t there be a costume malfunction penalty for a nip-slip for the French team. There was for sure something sticking out of her costume at the end.
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby sms29s66 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:01 am

Hmmm, did someone Tonya Harding Gabriella's dress? :shock: :wink:
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby Virginia » Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:04 pm

Why why why why WHY didn't they stop, go to the referee and explain the problem, fix the fastening and start over??????

This is perfectly permissible under the rules, and nobody would have thought the worse of them.

I'll never understand it. That program must have been a nightmare for Gabrielle.
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby tennisfan » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:29 pm

Virginia wrote:Why why why why WHY didn't they stop, go to the referee and explain the problem, fix the fastening and start over??????

This is perfectly permissible under the rules, and nobody would have thought the worse of them.

I'll never understand it. That program must have been a nightmare for Gabrielle.

There's a deduction of one point for every ten seconds of interruption up to a -3.0. If the interruption of the program is going to be longer the referee can allow up to a 3 minute stop with a deduction of -5.0. These rules were changed after the debacle with Zhang/Zhang at the 2006 Olympics and the interruption was not penalized.

If they'd had stopped the program it probably would have lost them the Gold medal, though I'm troubled that a young woman had to continue to skate and expose herself to the world in order to try and win a Gold medal.
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby tennisfan » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:31 pm

rosima wrote:Shouldn’t there be a costume malfunction penalty for a nip-slip for the French team. There was for sure something sticking out of her costume at the end.

Costume deductions are for something falling on the ice, and excessive nudity of the costume. It would be up to the judging panel to vote for a costume deduction but according to the protocols none of the judges noticed or felt it warranted such a deduction.
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby Dragonlady » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:21 pm

Virginia wrote:Why why why why WHY didn't they stop, go to the referee and explain the problem, fix the fastening and start over??????

This is perfectly permissible under the rules, and nobody would have thought the worse of them.

I'll never understand it. That program must have been a nightmare for Gabrielle.


There’s a 2 point deduction for stopping and starting. And you don’t “start over”. You start where you stopped.

I’m amazed that she wasn’t more distracted and managed to maintain the technical levels. There were enough other straps on the dress to keep the top on without exposing her until the dip at the end. CBC replayed it this morning and pixelated the “nip slip”, but it had to be distracting for both of them.
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby Virginia » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:06 am

That costume malfunction cost Pap and Ciz the gold.
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby chuckiem » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:10 am

You have to wonder if some nefarious person got their hands on the costume and sabotaged it.....
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby chuckiem » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:14 am

FREE DANCE RESULTS

1 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 123.35 63.98 59.37 9.79 9.75 10.00 9.93 10.00 0.00 18
2 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN 122.40 63.35 59.05 9.71 9.61 9.96 9.93 10.00 0.00 20
3 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI USA 114.86 59.37 55.49 9.32 9.07 9.36 9.21 9.29 0.00 17
4 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV OAR 111.45 56.25 55.20 9.14 8.89 9.29 9.32 9.36 0.00 15
5 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 109.94 54.94 56.00 9.29 9.21 9.25 9.46 9.46 1.00 19
6 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 108.34 55.27 54.07 8.93 8.71 9.14 9.07 9.21 1.00 16
7 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN 107.65 53.48 54.17 8.96 8.75 9.18 9.04 9.21 0.00 13
8 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN 107.31 55.14 52.17 8.68 8.29 8.86 8.68 8.96 0.00 11
9 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA 105.31 53.82 51.49 8.57 8.50 8.57 8.57 8.71 0.00 6
10 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND GBR 101.96 51.66 50.30 8.32 8.21 8.39 8.57 8.43 0.00 12
11 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 101.40 51.68 49.72 8.14 8.04 8.43 8.36 8.46 0.00 10
12 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES USA 100.13 49.04 53.09 8.64 8.71 8.71 9.14 9.04 2.00 14
13 Kana MURAMOTO / Chris REED JPN 97.22 50.75 46.47 7.64 7.54 7.86 7.75 7.93 0.00 8
14 Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO OAR 95.77 46.73 49.04 8.14 8.00 8.29 8.14 8.29 0.00 9
15 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV POL 95.29 48.45 46.84 7.64 7.68 7.89 7.82 8.00 0.00 7
16 Kavita LORENZ / Joti POLIZOAKIS GER 90.50 46.78 43.72 7.29 6.96 7.43 7.32 7.43 0.00 3
17 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC FRA 89.62 47.04 42.58 7.25 6.82 7.14 7.21 7.07 0.00 1
18 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR 87.76 44.01 43.75 7.25 7.11 7.21 7.50 7.39 0.00 5
19 Yura MIN / Alexander GAMELIN KOR 86.52 44.61 41.91 6.89 6.68 7.14 6.96 7.25 0.00 4
20 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Lukas CSOLLEY SVK 82.82 41.65 50.00 41.17 6.82 6.61 6.82 7.00 7.07 0.00 2


JUDGES for FD: SVK CAN POL JPN USA TUR RUS CHN ESP no French judge.....

FINAL STANDINGS

1 - Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN 206.07 1 2
2 - Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 205.28 2 1
3 - Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI USA 192.59 4 3
4 - Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 187.69 3 4
5 - Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV OAR 186.92 6 5
6 - Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 184.91 5 6
7 - Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN 181.98 8 7
8 - Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN 176.91 9 8
9 - Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES USA 175.58 7 9
10 - Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA 173.47 11 10
11 - Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND GBR 170.32 10 11
12 - Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 168.33 12 12
13 - Kana MURAMOTO / Chris REED JPN 160.63 15 13
14 - Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO OAR 162.24 13 14
15 - Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV POL 161.35 14 15
16 - Kavita LORENZ / Joti POLIZOAKIS GER 150.49 17 16
17 - Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC FRA 149.59 18 17
18 - Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR 147.24 20 18
19 - Yura MIN / Alexander GAMELIN KOR 147.74 16 19
20 - Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Lukas CSOLLEY SVK 142.57 19 20
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby chuckiem » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:27 am

START ORDER LADIES SP Wed Feb 21 10 am local time / Tue Feb 20 8 pm EST

1 Bradie TENNELL USA
2 Isadora WILLIAMS BRA
3 Anna KHNYCHENKOVA UKR
4 Diana NIKITINA LAT
5 Hanul KIM KOR
6 Anita ÖSTLUND SWE

7 Xiangning LI CHN
8 Alexia PAGANINI SUI
9 Aiza MAMBEKOVA KAZ
10 Emmi PELTONEN FIN
11 Larkyn AUSTMAN CAN
12 Mae Berenice MEITE FRA

*** *** *** *** ZAMBONI *** *** *** ***

13 Kailani CRAINE AUS
14 Ivett TOTH HUN
15 Giada RUSSO ITA
16 Loena HENDRICKX BEL
17 Nicole SCHOTT GER
18 Nicole RAJICOVA SVK

19 Kaori SAKAMOTO JPN
20 Mirai NAGASU USA
21 Gabrielle DALEMAN CAN
22 Karen CHEN USA
23 Elizabet TURSYNBAEVA KAZ
24 Dabin CHOI KOR

*** *** *** *** ZAMBONI *** *** *** ***

25 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA OAR
26 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN
27 Kaetlyn OSMOND CAN
28 Alina ZAGITOVA OAR
29 Carolina KOSTNER ITA
30 Maria SOTSKOVA OAR

Tech Team

Ref Pfister-SUI
TC Lynch-AUS
TS Chung-KOR
ATS Martynov-RUS

Judges: TBA at start of competition

I am just disgusted. Vincent Zhou had to start 3rd in the men's starting order, and now Bradie Tennell, #43 on the WR, has to start first. Larkyn Austman, who has the lowest rank at 177, gets to start 11th. I just hope it doesn't bother her. But it is sure to keep her PCS scores as low as possible. I would like to see her have a meteoric rise similar to Vincent's in the FS.
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby sms29s66 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:31 am

I'm just disgusted with the ice dance results. My heart aches for Gabriella and Guillam. I am pleased for the Shibs. But as for V/M and H/D, I am sick of being forced to watch **** on ice in order to follow my favorite sport.
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby tennisfan » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:46 am

chuckiem wrote:You have to wonder if some nefarious person got their hands on the costume and sabotaged it.....

Gabby apparently has to be sewn into the costume every time she wears it, so more than likely this time the sewing stitches just didn't hold and when Guillaume grabbed her neck and she did that back bend at the beginning of the program it can apart.
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby Andy » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:32 am

I am almost happy with the ice dance results :-) I would have liked gold and silver to Virtue/Moir and Pap/Ciz in whatever order, depending on who skated best. About Virtue/Moir I loved the passion, the sensuality and the drama (the technique is a given of course). About Pap/Ciz I loved the extension, the elegance, the flow, the endless free legs. This time Virtue/Moir prevailed: what a farewell to skating, becoming the second couple in history with two gold medals, and the first with two gold and one silver. Pap/Ciz came out in second: well done to them, hopefully it will be a push to keep going until they will get their gold.

I am not a fan of the Shibs and I do not care about their skating. My respect for their work and technique, and congrats on their medal, but for me their dance does not do. I cannot stand HUb/Don: I do not think Ice Dance is about trying to convey a sexual message no matter what is being skated. I find Hubbel annoying at the very least, but I fully recognize it is a matter of personal taste, and that their technical value is undeniable.

I would have liked to see Cappellini/LaNotte somewhat higher in the ranking, but I think their time is past. It would be nice to see them bidding farewell to competitive skating with a medal at Worlds, but I do not think it is going to happen. I expect them to compete to ensure two (possibly three) spots for Italy, and that's it. Too bad seeing Weaver/Poje spiral down. They used to be among my fav skaters, and I am not sure if there is something at this point that can be done to reverse their fall. Hopefully they will show up at worlds with their guns firing.
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby sms29s66 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:49 am

I'd like to know the full story behind V/M's decision to put that objectionable jump back in the free dance. Were they told to remove it or not? And did V/M decide it wasn't "attractive" or not. If they are retiring, I say good. I can do without seeing Tessa's crotch in Scott's face. Now if only the US federation would only put a leash on H/D, I'd be satisfied. I agree with Andy--Hubbell is insufferable.
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby Andy » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:59 am

sms29s66 wrote: Now if only the US federation would only put a leash on H/D, I'd be satisfied.


As long as they keep soaring in the rankings, I do not think it is going to happen :lol:
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby sms29s66 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:26 am

The powers that be could do something about sex-on-ice. Remember after Torvill and Dean they "banned" death on ice. And after the excesses of Russian ice dancers such as Bukin's father they reined in the bizarre antics that were in vogue at the time.
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Re: 2018 Pyeongchang KOREA WINTER OLYMPICS

Postby Maleeva » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:18 pm

How did judge #4 give Weaver/Poje a level 3 on their Twizzles??? Lordy.

So happy for V&M but my heart breaks for Pap/Ciz. The Shibs delivered when it mattered most and the other two US teams made errors that are becoming all too frequent for them.

So, will V&M now skip worlds? Bob/Solo will now retire, no worlds for them, correct?
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