2018 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

2018 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Maleeva » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:33 pm

The initial entries are up:

http://www.isuresults.com/events/fsevent03111492.htm

I’m disappointed the Russian federation dropped Voronov like a hot potato after his fourth place finish at nationals. I like Aliev well enough but I really do not care for Samarin, who for my taste has very little artistic merit. I think Voronov really deserved this spot at Euros because he is a better overall skater than Samarin, has had the better season to this point and also has better programs. Glad to see that Javi will make the trans-Atlantic trip to Moscow to try and win another Euro title.

Medvedeva is entered so hopefully she will be healthy enough to compete. The question will be, has she lost the momentum she built from the GP season to be able to keep Zagitova at bay. The ladies event here is simply the three Russians VS Carolina Kostner LOL.

Pairs should be a dog fight between the top two Russian pairs, Sav/Mas and my personal favs, James/Cipres. Here’s to hoping the ISU judges give the French team the full GOE and PCS marks that they deserve.

Pap/Ciz will of course easily win the dance event. The battle here will be for silver between the Italians Cap/Lan and the top Russian team, Bob/Solo. On home ice, I’d give the nod to Bob/Solo, who were knocked out of the GP Final by Cap/Lan.
Nikita must still be injured from nationals, so no Sin/Kat team here.
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Re: 2018 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Andy » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:44 pm

Maleeva wrote:The initial entries are up:

http://www.isuresults.com/events/fsevent03111492.htm

I’m disappointed the Russian federation dropped Voronov like a hot potato after his fourth place finish at nationals. I like Aliev well enough but I really do not care for Samarin, who for my taste has very little artistic merit. I think Voronov really deserved this spot at Euros because he is a better overall skater than Samarin, has had the better season to this point and also has better programs. Glad to see that Javi will make the trans-Atlantic trip to Moscow to try and win another Euro title.

Medvedeva is entered so hopefully she will be healthy enough to compete. The question will be, has she lost the momentum she built from the GP season to be able to keep Zagitova at bay. The ladies event here is simply the three Russians VS Carolina Kostner LOL.

Pairs should be a dog fight between the top two Russian pairs, Sav/Mas and my personal favs, James/Cipres. Here’s to hoping the ISU judges give the French team the full GOE and PCS marks that they deserve.

Pap/Ciz will of course easily win the dance event. The battle here will be for silver between the Italians Cap/Lan and the top Russian team, Bob/Solo. On home ice, I’d give the nod to Bob/Solo, who were knocked out of the GP Final by Cap/Lan.
Nikita must still be injured from nationals, so no Sin/Kat team here.


Thanks for the link! my two cents on this:

Men. I am disappointed too about Voronov. This is a senior competition, and to me Samarin is still very much a junior. Same holds to a certain extent for Aliev. AFter the GP disappointments, I think Javi feels he has something to prove before the Olys, so I think that he will be fighting in Moscow. I am also curious what will happen with some outsiders like Hendrickx and Bychenko.

Ladies. I find it sad that the competition may turn out in a battle between the three Russian juniors and Kostner, who is past her prime. It speaks volumes about the current state of figure skating in the ladies department, at least in Europe, the misuse of the CoP and the direction the sport is taking. ON paper, I do not see any other challengers... but I may be wrong (hopefully)

Pairs. I think at the moment the Germans have the best programs in the world (I prefer them to Sui/Han). The question is whether they can deliver it. Tarasova/Morozov are lovely in the short, but painful to watch in the FS. Hard to understand for me how the very same pair can usually produce interesting SP and dull FS. STolbova/Klimov are absolutely unpredictable, but when they are on, they are really on. James/CIpres... just amazing. Some of the best lines in the business, and they seem to have found their consistency. Surprises may come from Duskova/Bidar, while Zabiaako/ENbert bore me beyond limits. Special mention for Della MOnica/Guarise, though I do not see them as contenders

Dance. I do not see Cappellini/La Notte challenging Bob/Sol for silver in MOscow. Actuall, they may end up lower than 3rd if Stepanova/Bukin skate well. Outside the top couples, I think special attention is deserved by Nazarova/Nikitin, GUignard/Fabbri, Coomes/Buckland (intersting to see where these two will fit) and the Danish couple
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Re: 2018 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Maleeva » Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:30 pm

Final entries are up:

http://www.isuresults.com/results/seaso ... /index.htm

Looks like Savchenko/Massot have withdrawn from the pairs. I sure hope they are not injured and will be ok for Pyeongchang. Now it is solely up to James/Cipres to prevent a Russian sweep of the podium.

I’m most interested in seeing if Javi can hold off the Russian men and win anther Euro Gold medal and if Medvedeva can halt the momentum Zagitova has built during Evgenia’s absence due to injury.

The only question in dance is how much Pap/Ciz will win by and who will win the silver, Cap/Lan or Bob/Solo.
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Re: 2018 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Jonas » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:48 pm

PAIRS
I'm hoping that Savchenko & Massot nab their first European title together here this week and for James & Cipres to nab their second consecutive Euoropean medal, preferably the silver. If the two Italian pairs here finish 6th and 7th, which is a safe prediction, they can secure three pairs for next year's Europeans!

MEN
I'm most interested in seeing whether Javi Fernandez can match Katarina Witt's resume of 6 European titles or whether Mikhail Kolyada strengthens his Olympic medal chances by knocking him off the top spot. Whatever the outcome, I hope they both bring their A-games cuz this could one epic duel!

LADIES
My gut tells me Zagitova will beat Medvedeva here, setting up for an Olympic Lady from Russia duel in Pyeongchang. I am interested to see if Kostner is still able to land a 7-triple FS. I doubt it, so I think Maria Sotskova will complete another Russian sweep here. That'll make 3 Russian sweeps at European out of 4 in this Olympiad.

We'll also see former US junior lady making her Europeans debut, competing for Switzerland.

Your thoughts...
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Re: 2018 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby tennisfan » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:46 am

So Savchenko/Massot have withdrawn, sorry Jonas, they won't be winning. There are two stories that seem to have been floated as to why. Both indicate that they are working on their technical elements. One indicates that this refers to them bringing back the throw 3A :shock: :( . The other is that they are doing a new short program, which would be the 3rd short program of the season. :shock: My guess is that the truth is that Massot's back is acting up, or just not quite right - he was having issues with it at Skate America - and that they are not taking any chances. Hopefully whatever the reason they use this extra week of practice to continue to build towards the Olympics.
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Re: 2018 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:55 pm

START ORDER - MEN SHORT PROGRAM - WED JAN 17 11:45 am LOCAL TIME / 3:45 am EST

1 Nicky OBREYKOV BUL
2 Conor STAKELUM IRL
3 Burak DEMIRBOGA TUR
4 Larry LOUPOLOVER AZE
5 Davide LEWTON BRAIN MON

6 Romain PONSART FRA
7 Yakau ZENKO BLR
8 Jiri BELOHRADSKY CZE
9 Alexander MASZLJANKO HUN
10 Felipe MONTOYA ESP

*** *** *** *** ZAMBONI *** *** *** ***

11 Thomas KENNES NED
12 Slavik HAYRAPETYAN ARM
13 Sondre ODDVOLL BOE NOR
14 Nicholas VRDOLJAK CRO
15 Igor REZNICHENKO POL

16 Daniel Albert NAURITS EST
17 Valtter VIRTANEN FIN
18 Michael NEUMAN SVK
19 Peter LIEBERS GER
20 Yaroslav PANIOT UKR

*** *** *** *** ZAMBONI *** *** *** ***

21 Alexander MAJOROV SWE
22 Paul FENTZ GER
23 Stephane WALKER SUI
24 Irakli MAYSURADZE GEO
25 Phillip HARRIS GBR

26 Daniel SAMOHIN ISR
27 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT
28 Michal BREZINA CZE
29 Chafik BESSEGHIER FRA
30 Matteo RIZZO ITA
31 Moris KVITELASHVILI GEO

*** *** *** *** ZAMBONI *** *** *** ***

32 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR
33 Mikhail KOLYADA RUS
34 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP
35 Dmitri ALIEV RUS
36 Alexander SAMARIN RUS
37 Jorick HENDRICKX BEL

Tech Team

Ref Jonsson-SWE
TC Laaksonen-FIN
TS Lebedeva-RUS
ATS Fleury-FRA

Judges: TBA before start of competition

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START ORDER - PAIRS SHORT PROGRAM - WED JAN 17 7:00 pm LOCAL TIME / 11:00 am EST

1 Laura BARQUERO / Aritz MAESTU ESP
2 Ioulia CHTCHETININA / Mikhail AKULOV SUI
3 Sofiya KARAGODINA / Semyon STEPANOV AZE

4 Annika HOCKE / Ruben BLOMMAERT GER
5 Lana PETRANOVIC / Antonio SOUZA-KORDEIRU CRO
6 Paige CONNERS / Evgeni KRASNAPOLSKI ISR


*** *** *** *** *** *** ZAMBONI *** *** *** *** *** ***

7 Lola ESBRAT / Andrei NOVOSELOV FRA
8 Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT
9 Valentina MARCHEI / Ondrej HOTAREK ITA
10 Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE ITA

11 Natalia ZABIJAKO / Alexander ENBERT RUS
12 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV RUS
13 Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES FRA
14 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV RUS


Tech Team

Ref Rosenbluth-USA
TC Bianchetti-ITA
TS Cain-AUS
ATS Knyazev-UZB

Judges: TBA before start of competition
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Re: 2018 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:32 pm

RESULTS MEN SHORT PROGRAM

1 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP 103.82 56.00 47.82 9.46 9.43 9.68 9.61 9.64 0.00 34 4t+3t, 4s, 3a
2 Dmitri ALIEV RUS 91.33 49.01 42.32 8.57 8.21 8.54 8.50 8.50 0.00 35 3z+3t, 4t, 3a
3 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 85.11 44.90 40.21 8.00 7.71 8.07 8.14 8.29 0.00 27 3z+3t, 3a, 3f
4 Mikhail KOLYADA RUS 83.41 40.23 43.18 8.79 8.50 8.50 8.71 8.68 0.00 33 4z, 2t-nc, 3a
5 Jorick HENDRICKX BEL 78.56 38.64 40.92 8.07 8.00 8.21 8.14 8.50 1.00 37 3a↓, 3z+3t, 3lo
6 Matteo RIZZO ITA 78.26 41.87 36.39 7.21 7.04 7.39 7.32 7.43 0.00 30 3a, 3f+3t, 3z
7 Moris KVITELASHVILI GEO 76.74 42.38 36.36 7.29 7.07 7.21 7.43 7.36 2.00 31 3a, 4s↓, 4t+3t↓,
8 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR 74.97 36.87 39.10 7.89 7.43 7.89 7.89 8.00 1.00 32 3a, 4t<↓, 3z+3t
9 Alexander SAMARIN RUS 74.25 37.11 39.14 8.00 7.46 7.82 7.93 7.93 2.00 36 4z<↓-nc, 4t↓, 3a
10 Michal BREZINA CZE 72.72 34.37 39.35 7.93 7.57 7.82 7.96 8.07 1.00 28 3s, 3a, 3f+3t<<↓
11 Paul FENTZ GER 72.54 37.43 35.11 7.00 6.86 7.11 7.14 7.00 0.00 22 3t+3t, 3a, 3z, 0 CSSp
12 Alexander MAJOROV SWE 71.28 36.32 34.96 7.18 6.75 6.96 6.93 7.14 0.00 21 4t, 3a, 2f!+3t
13 Chafik BESSEGHIER FRA 70.35 33.67 36.68 7.43 7.07 7.50 7.29 7.39 0.00 29 4t+2t, 3a, 2z*
14 Slavik HAYRAPETYAN ARM 69.49 38.63 30.86 6.21 5.89 6.36 6.29 6.11 0.00 12 3a, 3z, 3s+3t
15 Phillip HARRIS GBR 67.77 35.60 33.17 6.75 6.39 6.64 6.71 6.68 1.00 25 3a, 3f+3t, 3z↓
16 Stephane WALKER SUI 65.96 31.92 35.04 6.93 6.71 7.00 7.04 7.36 1.00 23 3a, 3z+2t, 3f<↓
17 Igor REZNICHENKO POL 63.96 34.36 29.60 6.07 5.68 5.93 5.96 5.96 0.00 15 4t<↓, 3a, 2f+3t
18 Irakli MAYSURADZE GEO 63.69 32.29 31.40 6.39 6.00 6.36 6.36 6.29 0.00 24 3a, 2z*, 3f+3t
19 Sondre ODDVOLL BOE NOR 61.85 32.16 29.69 5.93 5.68 6.00 6.04 6.04 0.00 13 2a, 3t+3t, 3f
20 Romain PONSART FRA 61.45 32.92 29.53 6.21 5.46 5.82 5.93 6.11 1.00 6 4t↓, 2z+3t, 3a
21 Burak DEMIRBOGA TUR 61.27 33.38 27.89 5.64 5.32 5.68 5.61 5.64 0.00 3 3a, 3z+2t, 3f
22 Felipe MONTOYA ESP 61.23 29.84 31.39 6.25 6.07 6.43 6.32 6.32 0.00 10 3z+2t, 2a, 3f
23 Daniel Albert NAURITS EST 60.76 28.75 32.01 6.50 6.11 6.54 6.25 6.61 0.00 16 3a, 2z+3t<, 3lo<
24 Valtter VIRTANEN FIN 60.23 30.70 29.53 6.00 5.71 5.93 5.89 6.00 0.00 17 3z+3t<, 3lo, 2a

FINAL NOT REACHED:
25 Yaroslav PANIOT UKR 60.07 31.60 30.47 6.54 5.68 6.07 6.14 6.04 2.00 20 4f<↓, 4t↓-nc, 3a
26 Daniel SAMOHIN ISR 59.18 29.03 35.15 7.32 6.79 6.61 7.18 7.25 5.00 26 4s↓, 3a<↓, 3z+3t<<↓, ↓sp, time
27 Nicholas VRDOLJAK CRO 58.30 32.34 25.96 5.39 5.07 5.25 5.11 5.14 0.00 14 3z+3t, 2a, 3f
28 Jiri BELOHRADSKY CZE 58.30 29.81 29.49 6.07 5.71 5.82 5.93 5.96 1.00 8 3f, 2a, 3z+2t, time
29 Michael NEUMAN SVK 57.44 29.55 27.89 5.54 5.43 5.57 5.64 5.71 0.00 18 2a, 3z+3t, 3f
30 Thomas KENNES NED 54.65 28.36 27.29 5.54 5.18 5.54 5.64 5.39 1.00 11 3s+3t<↓, 3z, 2a
31 Davide LEWTON BRAIN MON 54.64 27.57 27.07 5.36 5.25 5.54 5.46 5.46 0.00 5 3t+3t, 3s, 2a
32 Larry LOUPOLOVER AZE 52.44 28.73 24.71 5.11 4.64 5.07 4.96 4.93 1.00 4 3z+3t<↓, 3f, 2a
33 Alexander MASZLJANKO HUN 52.01 25.15 26.86 5.36 5.29 5.39 5.46 5.36 0.00 9 3z+2t, 1lo*, 2a, 0 fcsp4
34 Nicky OBREYKOV BUL 50.24 25.67 24.57 5.07 4.68 4.93 4.89 5.00 0.00 1 3f+3t<<,3a, 3z<
35 Yakau ZENKO BLR 47.26 22.28 24.98 5.04 4.86 5.04 5.00 5.04 0.00 7 3f+3t, 2z*, 2a
36 Conor STAKELUM IRL 43.05 20.19 22.86 4.50 4.43 4.43 4.71 4.79 0.00 2 3t+3t, 1lo*, 2a, 0 ccsp
WD Peter LIEBERS GER

JUDGES, MEN SP: GBR POL NOR GER EST FIN SVK TUR GEO

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START ORDER MEN FREE SKATE FRI JAN 19 5:45 pm local time / 9:45 am EST

1 Daniel Albert NAURITS EST
2 Burak DEMIRBOGA TUR
3 Valtter VIRTANEN FIN
4 Sondre ODDVOLL BOE NOR
5 Romain PONSART FRA
6 Felipe MONTOYA ESP

7 Phillip HARRIS GBR
8 Chafik BESSEGHIER FRA
9 Igor REZNICHENKO POL
10 Slavik HAYRAPETYAN ARM
11 Stephane WALKER SUI
12 Irakli MAYSURADZE GEO

*** *** *** ZAMBONI *** *** ***

13 Paul FENTZ GER
14 Michal BREZINA CZE
15 Alexander MAJOROV SWE
16 Moris KVITELASHVILI GEO
17 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR
18 Alexander SAMARIN RUS

19 Mikhail KOLYADA RUS
20 Matteo RIZZO ITA
21 Jorick HENDRICKX BEL
22 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT
23 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP
24 Dmitri ALIEV RUS


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START ORDER LADIES SHORT PROGRAM - THU JAN 18 12:25 pm local time / 4:25 am EST

1 Elzbieta KROPA LTU
2 Silvia HUGEC SVK
3 Elzbieta GABRYSZAK POL
4 Charlotte VANDERSARREN BEL
5 Presiyana DIMITROVA BUL

6 Kyarha VAN TIEL NED
7 Eliska BREZINOVA CZE
8 Antonina DUBININA SRB
9 Valentina MATOS ESP
10 Pernille SORENSEN DEN

*** *** *** ZAMBONI *** *** ***

11 Julia SAUTER ROU
12 Kim CHEREMSKY AZE
13 Sila SAYGI TUR
14 Aimee BUCHANAN ISR
15 Alexia PAGANINI SUI
16 Kristina SHKULETA-GROMOVA EST

17 Diana NIKITINA LAT
18 Natalie KLOTZ AUT
19 Fruzsina MEDGYESI HUN
20 Natasha McKAY GBR
21 Loena HENDRICKX BEL
22 Anne Line GJERSEM NOR

*** *** *** ZAMBONI *** *** ***

23 Dasa GRM SLO
24 Giada RUSSO ITA
25 Micol CRISTINI ITA
26 Anna KHNYCHENKOVA UKR
27 Viveca LINDFORS FIN
28 Emmi PELTONEN FIN

29 Anita ÖSTLUND SWE
30 Ivett TOTH HUN
31 Matilda ALGOTSSON SWE
32 Mae Berenice MEITE FRA
33 Nicole SCHOTT GER
34 Lea Johanna DASTICH GER

*** *** *** ZAMBONI *** *** ***

35 Carolina KOSTNER ITA
36 Nicole RAJICOVA SVK
37 Maria SOTSKOVA RUS
38 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS
39 Alina ZAGITOVA RUS
40 Laurine LECAVELIER FRA

Tech Team

Ref Obraztsov RUS
TC Barbacci Levy SUI
TS Baranova FIN
ATS Okazaki JPN

Judges: TBA at time of competition

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RESULTS PAIRS SHORT PROGRAM

1 Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES FRA 75.52 40.07 35.45 8.75 8.68 8.93 8.96 9.00 0.00 13
2 Natalia ZABIJAKO / Alexander ENBERT RUS 72.95 39.61 33.34 8.36 8.14 8.39 8.32 8.46 0.00 11
3 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV RUS 72.05 36.94 36.11 9.14 8.82 8.96 9.07 9.14 1.00 14
4 Valentina MARCHEI / Ondrej HOTAREK ITA 71.89 39.32 32.57 8.04 7.89 8.36 8.14 8.29 0.00 9
5 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV RUS 70.37 35.91 35.46 9.07 8.75 8.61 8.96 8.93 1.00 12
6 Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE ITA 64.53 32.96 31.57 8.00 7.64 7.79 7.96 8.07 0.00 10
7 Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT 63.94 35.30 28.64 7.14 6.96 7.39 7.14 7.18 0.00 8
8 Lola ESBRAT / Andrei NOVOSELOV FRA 57.48 31.60 25.88 6.64 6.18 6.50 6.46 6.57 0.00 7
9 Annika HOCKE / Ruben BLOMMAERT GER 57.05 31.13 25.92 6.46 6.29 6.54 6.57 6.54 0.00 4
10 Paige CONNERS / Evgeni KRASNAPOLSKI ISR 52.32 29.20 24.12 6.11 5.89 6.00 6.11 6.04 1.00 6
11 Laura BARQUERO / Aritz MAESTU ESP 51.46 29.23 22.23 5.64 5.21 5.75 5.57 5.61 0.00 1
12 Ioulia CHTCHETININA / Mikhail AKULOV SUI 46.57 25.63 20.94 5.43 5.07 5.18 5.25 5.25 0.00 2
13 Lana PETRANOVIC / Antonio SOUZA-KORDEIRU CRO 45.72 23.93 21.79 5.64 5.21 5.46 5.46 5.46 0.00 5
14 Sofiya KARAGODINA / Semyon STEPANOV AZE 41.58 23.80 19.78 5.07 4.82 4.82 5.04 4.96 2.00 3

JUDGES PAIRS SP: AUT ISR GER CRO FRA GBR SWE ITA RUS

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Re: 2018 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:57 pm

START ORDER PAIRS FREE SKATE THU JAN 18 7:12 pm local time / 11:12 am EST

1 Sofiya KARAGODINA / Semyon STEPANOV AZE
2 Lana PETRANOVIC / Antonio SOUZA-KORDEIRU CRO
3 Ioulia CHTCHETININA / Mikhail AKULOV SUI

4 Paige CONNERS / Evgeni KRASNAPOLSKI ISR
5 Laura BARQUERO / Aritz MAESTU ESP
6 Annika HOCKE / Ruben BLOMMAERT GER

*** *** *** *** *** ZAMBONI *** *** *** *** ***

7 Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT
8 Lola ESBRAT / Andrei NOVOSELOV FRA
9 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV RUS
10 Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE ITA

11 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV RUS
12 Valentina MARCHEI / Ondrej HOTAREK ITA
13 Natalia ZABIJAKO / Alexander ENBERT RUS
14 Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES FRA

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Re: 2018 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby sms29s66 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:57 am

Question: I saw that one of the men got zero points for doubling on the triple out of steps element. He also fell on that double and another jump, so he got -2.00 as well. Is it possible to get a minus 3 on an element for which a skater also got zero points? So is it theoretically possible to get 0.00, minus three on GEO, and -2 for a third fall if your "illegal" element was your third jumping pass?
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