2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby chuckiem » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:19 pm

MEN SHORT PROGRAM

1 Alexander SAMARIN MOS 103.11 58.44 44.67 8.96 8.61 9.18 8.96 8.96 0.00 9 4z+3t, 4t, 3a
2 Mikhail KOLYADA SPB 101.62 54.91 46.71 9.43 9.21 9.32 9.39 9.36 0.00 14 4z, 4t+3t, 3a
3 Dmitri ALIEV S/K 91.95 49.70 42.25 8.43 8.21 8.50 8.57 8.54 0.00 2 4t, 3a, 3z+3t
4 Sergei VORONOV MOS 90.23 46.88 43.35 8.71 8.46 8.79 8.64 8.75 0.00 3 4t+2t, 3z, 3a
5 Andrei LAZUKIN S/S 85.47 46.47 39.00 7.82 7.54 7.93 7.89 7.82 0.00 11 4t+3t, 3a, 3f
6 Vladimir SAMOILOV MOS 85.10 47.63 37.47 7.64 7.18 7.61 7.50 7.54 0.00 6 4s, 3a, 3f+3t
7 Artur DMITRIEV MOS 83.66 44.74 39.92 8.00 7.71 8.00 8.07 8.14 1.00 18 4t+3t, 4f<<↓, 3a
8 Alexey EROKHOV MOS 80.38 43.30 37.08 7.54 7.29 7.39 7.50 7.36 0.00 13 3a, 4t+2t, 3z!
9 Roman SAVOSIN MOS 77.79 41.57 36.22 7.36 7.04 7.32 7.29 7.21 0.00 1 3a, 4t, 3z!+3t
10 Artem LEZHEEV S/K 77.18 40.86 37.32 7.50 7.32 7.43 7.50 7.57 1.00 5 3lo↓, 3a, 3z+3t
11 Makar IGNATOV SPB 75.81 39.39 36.42 7.46 7.14 7.21 7.29 7.32 0.00 16 4t+3t, 3a, 3z
12 Konstantin MILIUKOV MOR 70.13 34.77 35.36 7.29 6.89 7.00 7.11 7.07 0.00 7 4s<, 3a, 3z+3t
13 Anton SHULEPOV SPB 69.99 33.21 37.78 7.64 7.43 7.39 7.68 7.64 1.00 8 4t<↓, 3a, 3z<+3t
14 Egor MURASHOV MOS 69.27 36.13 33.14 6.75 6.43 6.61 6.64 6.71 0.00 15 3a, 3z+3t, 3lo
15 Alexander PETROV SPB 65.08 27.64 37.44 7.68 7.32 7.36 7.54 7.54 0.00 4 3a, 2z*, 3lo+2t
16 Maxim KOVTUN M/S 64.72 27.22 38.50 7.89 7.57 7.50 7.86 7.68 1.00 12 4s+2t, 2t*, 3a<↓
17 Murad KURBANOV MOS 61.41 28.30 34.11 7.04 6.61 6.82 6.75 6.89 1.00 10 2a, 4t<↓, 3f+3t<
18 Andrei ZUBER LEN 50.34 22.84 30.50 6.32 6.00 6.00 6.11 6.07 3.00 17 4s<↓, 3a↓, 2z+2t*

Note: Alexander PETROV has withdrawn after the SP with an ankle injury.


PAIRS SHORT PROGRAM

1 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV MOS 76.32 38.24 38.08 9.50 9.39 9.46 9.61 9.64 0.00 2
2 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV M/T 75.36 38.56 37.80 9.54 9.32 9.39 9.50 9.50 1.00 8
3 Natalia ZABIIAKO / Alexander ENBERT KRR 75.00 40.17 34.83 8.71 8.39 8.82 8.79 8.82 0.00 5
4 Kristina ASTAKHOVA / Alexei ROGONOV MOS 69.65 36.04 34.61 8.57 8.57 8.57 8.79 8.75 1.00 12
5 Aleksandra BOIKOVA / Dmitrii KOZLOVSKII SPB 68.20 38.00 30.20 7.50 7.29 7.71 7.54 7.71 0.00 11
6 Daria PAVLIUCHENKO / Denis KHODYKIN MOS 65.07 36.70 28.37 7.07 6.86 7.14 7.18 7.21 0.00 7
7 Anastasia MISHINA / Aleksandr GALIAMOV SPB 63.85 35.29 28.56 7.14 6.89 7.25 7.21 7.21 0.00 1
8 Alisa EFIMOVA / Alexander KOROVIN SPB 63.44 35.24 28.20 7.14 6.82 7.04 7.11 7.14 0.00 3
9 Apollinariia PANFILOVA / Dmitry RYLOV PER 62.64 35.15 27.49 6.82 6.57 7.04 6.93 7.00 0.00 10
10 Anastasia POLUIANOVA / Dmitry SOPOT PER 56.10 29.60 26.50 6.71 6.39 6.68 6.64 6.71 0.00 9
11 Tatiana LYIROVA / Maksim SELKIN PER 55.51 30.11 25.40 6.39 6.18 6.36 6.36 6.46 0.00 6
12 Bogdana LUKASHEVICH / Alexander STEPANOV SPB 52.34 28.13 25.21 6.46 6.11 6.29 6.32 6.32 1.00 4


SHORT DANCE RESULTS

1 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV MOS 77.55 39.24 38.31 9.57 9.43 9.64 9.64 9.61 0.00 12
2 Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN MOS 76.97 39.34 37.63 9.36 9.25 9.54 9.39 9.50 0.00 10
3 Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO MOS 71.52 36.84 34.68 8.64 8.46 8.75 8.71 8.79 0.00 13
4 Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV MOS 68.46 32.14 36.32 9.07 8.93 9.04 9.11 9.25 0.00 3
5 Betina POPOVA / Sergey MOZGOV MOS 63.27 32.03 31.24 7.79 7.57 7.86 7.82 8.00 0.00 1
6 Alla LOBODA / Pavel DROZD MOS 63.07 32.21 30.86 7.71 7.57 7.79 7.75 7.75 0.00 7
7 Sofia EVDOKIMOVA / Egor BAZIN SAM 62.18 31.29 30.89 7.75 7.57 7.71 7.71 7.86 0.00 5
8 Vlada SOLOVIEVA / Yuri VLASENKO MOS 54.90 26.89 28.01 7.07 6.86 7.00 7.11 6.96 0.00 9
9 Annabelle MOROZOV / Andrei BAGIN MOS 52.32 23.78 28.54 7.18 7.00 7.18 7.21 7.11 0.00 4
10 Ludmila SOSNITSKAIA / Pavel GOLOVISHNIKOV MOS 49.24 23.13 26.11 6.57 6.39 6.61 6.64 6.43 0.00 2
11 Anastasia SAFRONOVA / Ilia ZIMIN SPB 43.59 19.78 23.81 6.00 5.82 5.96 6.11 5.86 0.00 6
12 Margarita SHESTAKOVA / Saveliy UGRYUMOV KIR 39.17 18.14 21.03 5.32 5.18 5.29 5.29 5.21 0.00 11
13 Ekaterina LUCHINA / Mikhail BRAGIN SVE 37.85 17.99 20.86 5.36 5.11 5.21 5.18 5.21 1.00 8
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby Andy » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:04 am

Kovtun is not showing in the lineup for the free skate
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby Ellen » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:28 am

I was not able go to St.-Petersburg – the Year end, the hottest time at work.
But I watched a few performances in recording. The general impression is that our leaders did not look and did not skate as the leaders. Perhaps they have not had enough time for rest and recover from the GP Final in Japan.

In pairs Ksenia Stolbova looked somehow insecure, Zhenya Tarasova made many mistakes. To me the best pair yesterday (by the technic and in general) was the Zabiyako-Enbert. They, in my opinion, should have won the SP, but the current difference of one point between first and third places is also ok.
I personally wish Astakhova-Rogonov be the third Russian pair actually :).

In dance, I liked Zagorski-Gurreiro most of all. Very incendiary, and, by the way, they were above all in technic. And Sinitsina-Katsalapov also looked very interesting to me, but Vika did the mistake on twizzles, so they got not that much.

In men, Alexander Samarin jumps very well. However by the skating skills and in general Kolyada, of course, is much stronger, and he is the only one from the Russian men who can compete at the World level.

Looking forward to Ladies short program today.
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby Maleeva » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:15 pm

Thanks for the results chuckie and the reports Ellen. Wow what scores for the top two men and so many men did clean quads in their short. Very impressive.

The battle for the third pairs team is intense !
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby chuckiem » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:03 pm

LADIES SHORT PROGRAM

1 Alina ZAGITOVA MOS 78.15 41.26 36.89 9.25 9.11 9.04 9.39 9.32 0.00 13 3z+3lo, 3f, 2a
2 Maria SOTSKOVA MOS 76.39 39.57 36.82 9.14 9.00 9.29 9.21 9.39 0.00 17 3z+3t, 3f, 2a
3 Polina TSURSKAYA M/O 75.33 40.38 34.95 8.79 8.54 8.82 8.79 8.75 0.00 2 3z+3t, 3lo, 2a
4 Alena KOSTORNAIA MOS 73.59 40.96 32.63 8.07 8.07 8.21 8.18 8.25 0.00 12 3f+3t, 3z, 2a
5 Anastasiia GUBANOVA SPB 71.69 38.51 33.18 8.21 8.11 8.36 8.36 8.43 0.00 6 2a, 3f+3t, 3z
6 Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA SPB 71.07 37.16 33.91 8.50 8.18 8.61 8.43 8.68 0.00 11 3t+3t, 3z, 2a
7 Daria PANENKOVA MOS 69.83 39.15 30.68 7.68 7.50 7.79 7.68 7.71 0.00 10 3z+3t, 3lo, 2a
8 Serafima SAKHANOVICH SPB 67.58 35.84 31.74 7.93 7.68 8.00 8.00 8.07 0.00 9 3f+3t, 3z, 2a
9 Sofia SAMODUROVA SPB 67.07 36.41 30.66 7.61 7.43 7.79 7.68 7.82 0.00 16 3f+3t, 3z!, 2a
10 Stanislava KONSTANTINOVA SPB 66.51 32.73 33.78 8.50 8.29 8.32 8.54 8.57 0.00 4 2a, 3z+3t, 2f*
11 Anna TARUSINA MOS 66.46 36.86 29.60 7.43 7.29 7.46 7.46 7.36 0.00 3 2a, 3z, 3lo+3t
12 Anastasiia GULIAKOVA MOS 66.35 35.90 30.45 7.75 7.46 7.71 7.50 7.64 0.00 7 3f+3t, 3z!, 2a
13 Elena RADIONOVA MOS 66.16 31.83 35.33 8.93 8.68 8.64 8.96 8.96 1.00 5 3z+3t, 3lo<↓, 2a
14 Valeriia MIKHAILOVA MOS 63.79 35.40 28.39 7.11 6.89 7.21 7.14 7.14 0.00 1 3z+3t, 2a, 3lo
15 Anastasia GRACHEVA MOS 62.17 34.79 27.38 6.96 6.68 6.86 6.86 6.86 0.00 14 3f+3lo, 3z, 2a
16 Alena LEONOVA SPB 62.15 30.61 32.54 8.21 7.89 8.07 8.14 8.36 1.00 8 3t+3t<↓, 3f, 2a
17 Sofia ISTOMINA MOS 62.09 32.83 29.26 7.36 7.07 7.39 7.36 7.39 0.00 15 3f, 3lo+3t, 2a
18 Lidia YAKOVLEVA SPB 52.43 28.43 26.00 6.64 6.39 6.32 6.61 6.54 2.00 18 3z+3t<↓, 3lo, 2a, time


As good as the men were in the SP, that's how disappointing they were in the FS. Nerves must have been at an all time high.

MEN FREE SKATE

1 Mikhail KOLYADA SPB 179.54 86.18 94.36 9.43 9.32 9.36 9.50 9.57 1.00 16 4z, 4s↓, 3a+3t, 3t, 1a, 3z+1lo+3s, 2lo, 3z
2 Dmitri ALIEV S/K 157.16 72.52 86.64 8.71 8.61 8.50 8.71 8.79 2.00 17 4t+1t, 4t, 3a, 3z, 1a, 2lo+1lo+3s, 3f<↓, 2a+3t<↓
3 Sergei VORONOV MOS 155.65 70.37 86.28 8.64 8.39 8.61 8.68 8.82 1.00 14 4t↓, 1a, 4t+rep, 2a, 3z+2t, 3a+2t+2lo, 3lo, 2a+2t*
4 Alexander SAMARIN MOS 155.42 68.06 88.36 9.00 8.64 8.68 8.93 8.93 1.00 15 4z↓, 2z, 2t, 3a, 3z+3t, 2a, 3f!, 3s
5 Artur DMITRIEV MOS 154.85 76.49 79.36 8.07 7.64 8.00 7.93 8.04 1.00 11 4t, 4f<<↓, 3a+1lo<<+3lo, 4t+2t, 3f+3t<, 3a<, 3s, 3z
6 Anton SHULEPOV SPB 151.14 74.58 77.56 7.71 7.57 7.75 7.89 7.86 1.00 4 4t<↓, 3a+3t, 3lo, 3a+1lo<+2f, 3z+2t, 3z, 3f<, 3s
7 Alexey EROKHOV MOS 150.21 79.07 74.14 7.57 7.36 7.29 7.39 7.46 3.00 10 4t+3t, 4s↓, 3a, 4t<↓, 3z!+1lo+3s, 3lo, 3f!+2t, 3z!<, time
8 Vladimir SAMOILOV MOS 146.10 72.52 75.58 7.79 7.36 7.43 7.57 7.64 2.00 13 4s, 3a, 2s, 4s↓+rep, 3lo+1lo+3s, 3f+3t, 2a, 3s↓
9 Andrei LAZUKIN S/S 145.47 67.75 77.72 7.93 7.61 7.64 7.89 7.79 0.00 12 3t+2t, 4t, 3a, 3a+rep, 3f+2t+2lo, 3z, 3lo, 3s
10 Makar IGNATOV SPB 141.44 70.20 73.24 7.54 7.29 7.14 7.36 7.29 2.00 8 4t, 3a, 3z+3t, 3lo, 3a<↓+rep, 3z+1lo+3s<, 3f!+2t, 2a, ↓spin
11 Artem LEZHEEV S/K 140.91 65.01 75.90 7.57 7.39 7.71 7.57 7.71 0.00 6 3lo+2t+2lo, 2a+3t, 3z+2t, 3lo, 3a, 3fe, 1z, 3s
12 Roman SAVOSIN MOS 140.82 66.32 74.50 7.50 7.32 7.43 7.43 7.57 0.00 9 3a, 4t+3t, 4t<, 2a+1lo<+3f, 3lo, 3z!<, 3s+seq+1t*, 2a
13 Konstantin MILIUKOV MOR 138.39 65.39 74.00 7.50 7.21 7.36 7.39 7.54 1.00 7 4s<, 3a, 3f, 3a<+2t, 3z↓, 3z+3t, 3lo+seq+1lo*+3s*, 2a
14 Egor MURASHOV MOS 128.18 62.32 66.86 6.93 6.46 6.61 6.68 6.75 1.00 1 3a, 2lo+4t<<↓, 3z+3t, 1f!, 3z+3t, 2a, 3lo, 3s
15 Murad KURBANOV MOS 127.61 61.33 67.28 6.93 6.46 6.79 6.75 6.71 1.00 2 4t+2t, 3z, 4t<↓, 3f+3t, 3lo+1lo+2s, 2f, 3s, 2a
16 Andrei ZUBER LEN 127.25 65.41 61.84 6.43 5.96 6.21 6.21 6.11 0.00 3 4s, 3a, 3lo^2a, 3z+3t, 2lo, 3z, 2s+2t, 2a
wd Alexander PETROV SPB
wd Maxim KOVTUN M/S


FINAL STANDINGS MEN

1 - Mikhail KOLYADA 281.16 2 1
2 - Alexander SAMARIN 258.53 1 4
3 - Dmitri ALIEV 249.11 3 2
4 - Sergei VORONOV 245.88 4 3
5 - Artur DMITRIEV 238.51 7 5
6 - Vladimir SAMOILOV 231.20 6 8
7 - Andrei LAZUKIN 230.94 5 9
8 - Alexei EROKHOV 230.59 8 7
9 - Anton SHULEPOV 221.13 13 6
10 - Roman SAVOSIN 218.61 9 12
11 - Artem LEZHEEV 218.09 10 11
12 - Makar IGNATOV 217.25 11 10
13 - Konstantin MILYUKOV 208.52 12 13
14 - Egor MURASHOV 197.45 14 14
15 - Murad KURBANOV 189.02 17 15
16 - Andrei ZUBER 177.59 18 16
R Alexander PETROV 15
R Maxim KOVTUN 16
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby chuckiem » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:50 pm

FREE DANCE

1 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV MOS 115.53 57.72 57.81 9.64 9.43 9.71 9.68 9.71 0.00 13
2 Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN MOS 111.31 54.94 56.37 9.29 9.29 9.39 9.46 9.54 0.00 12
3 Betina POPOVA / Sergey MOZGOV MOS 104.43 53.80 50.63 8.36 8.29 8.54 8.46 8.54 0.00 9
4 Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO MOS 104.26 51.87 52.39 8.82 8.57 8.75 8.71 8.82 0.00 11
5 Sofia EVDOKIMOVA / Egor BAZIN SAM 99.28 50.19 49.09 8.18 7.89 8.29 8.25 8.29 0.00 8
6 Alla LOBODA / Pavel DROZD MOS 96.92 49.42 47.50 7.86 7.75 7.93 8.00 8.04 0.00 7
7 Annabelle MOROZOV / Andrei BAGIN MOS 85.54 40.81 44.73 7.43 7.21 7.57 7.50 7.57 0.00 6
8 Vlada SOLOVIEVA / Yuri VLASENKO MOS 84.14 41.74 42.40 7.11 6.79 7.18 7.25 7.00 0.00 5
9 Ludmila SOSNITSKAIA / Pavel GOLOVISHNIKOV MOS 78.67 38.89 39.78 6.64 6.39 6.68 6.75 6.68 0.00 3
10 Anastasia SAFRONOVA / Ilia ZIMIN SPB 73.64 38.74 35.90 6.00 5.82 6.00 6.14 5.96 1.00 1
11 Margarita SHESTAKOVA / Saveliy UGRYUMOV KIR 62.78 30.51 32.27 5.54 5.21 5.39 5.39 5.36 0.00 4
12 Ekaterina LUCHINA / Mikhail BRAGIN SVE 59.49 28.11 31.38 5.36 5.11 5.25 5.29 5.14 0.00 2
wd Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV MOS

Nikita injured himself during the FD.

FINAL STANDINGS ICE DANCE

1 - Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitry SOLOVIEV 193.08 1 1
2 - Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN 188.28 2 2
3 - Tiffani ZAHORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO 175.78 3 4
4 - Betina POPOVA / Sergey MOZGOV 167.70 5 3
5 - Sofia EVDOKIMOVA / Egor BAZIN 161.46 7 5
6 - Alla LOBODA / Pavel DROZD 159.99 6 6
7 - Vlada SOLOVIEVA / Yuri VLASENKO 139.04 8 8
8 - Annabelle MOROZOV / Andrei BAGIN 137.86 9 7
9 - Liudmila SOSNITSKAYA / Pavel GOLOVISHNIKOV 127.91 10 9
10 - Anastasia SAFRONOVA / Ilya ZIMIN 117.23 11 10
11 - Margarita SHESTAKOVA / Saveliy UGRYUMOV 101.95 12 11
12 - Ekaterina LUCHINA / Mikhail BRAGIN 97.34 13 12
R Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV 4
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby Maleeva » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:28 pm

Well I kinda feel sorry for Voronov being fourth here after such a nice GP season. But I think the Russian federation does not name their Olympic team till after Europeans so perhaps he still has a chance? I don’t think he has ever been a favorite of the Russian judges.

I really thought Sin/Kat would challenge Step/Buck for the second spot on the dance team. Historically speaking, it is shocking Russia only has two spots in dance at the Olympics. Never thought I’d see the day that would happen but I’m sure they will have a third spot back soon, perhaps as soon as 2018 Milan.

Nikita must be devastated he will not return to the Olympics, as defending Bronze medalist. There were rumors that his former partner, Elena Ilinykh, might be at nationals with a new partner, but they are not listed. Ellen have you heard anything about that?
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby tennisfan » Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:10 am

I think Voronov will have to be named to the European team ahead of Aliev first, if he's to be named to the Olympic team. There are only two spots for the Russian men, so it would seem likely that Kolyada is going no matter what and whoever finished next in the order at European's will probably get the 2nd spot.
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby Maleeva » Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:55 pm

I think this is the best I have ever seen Bob/Solo skate. I love the music and was truly touched by this performance.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T8RoTW-XgO4
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby Maleeva » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:54 pm

Yikes that was a messy pairs free event. I have noticed that synchronized pairs spins have become a lost art in the world of pairs skating. I sure do miss those.

Sorry but I intensely dislike Tar/Mor’s free program music, so it is very difficult for me to appreciate their skating listening to that music.
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby Dragonlady » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:41 pm

The music is totally on unsuited to their personalities, Maleeva. It’s bright and sassy and they are precise and refined. She can pull off Grace Kelly, but not Marilyn Monroe. The music is unashedly sexy, and she’s so elegant.
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby chuckiem » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:54 pm

LADIES FREE SKATE

1 Alina ZAGITOVA MOS 155.44 79.36 76.08 9.50 9.29 9.61 9.54 9.61 0.00 18 3z+3lo, 2a+3t, 3f+2t+2lo, 3z, 3s<, 3f, 2a
2 Maria SOTSKOVA MOS 145.37 71.03 74.34 9.29 9.11 9.29 9.39 9.39 0.00 17 3z+3t, 3f, 3lo, 3f+1lo+3s, 3z, 2a+2t, 2a
3 Stanislava KONSTANTINOVA SPB 144.77 74.30 70.47 8.75 8.61 8.89 8.86 8.93 0.00 7 3z+3t, 3lo, 3f+1lo+3s, 3z, 3f, 2a+2t, 2a
4 Alena KOSTORNAIA MOS 142.98 75.67 67.31 8.29 8.32 8.61 8.39 8.46 0.00 14 3z, 3f+3t, 3f+2t+2t, 3s+3t, 3lo, 2a, 2a
5 Anastasiia GUBANOVA SPB 134.91 68.24 66.67 8.32 8.14 8.39 8.36 8.46 0.00 13 3z+3t, 3z+3t+2lo, 3lo, 2a, 3f<+2t, 3s, 2a
6 Polina TSURSKAYA M/O 132.28 63.54 68.74 8.75 8.43 8.46 8.68 8.64 0.00 16 3z+3t, 3f, 2a+2t+2t, 1z, 3s, 3lo, 2a+3t
7 Daria PANENKOVA MOS 132.14 71.86 60.28 7.57 7.29 7.71 7.54 7.57 0.00 10 3z+3t, 3f+1lo+3s, 3lo+2t, 3z, 3lo, 2a, 2a
8 Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA SPB 130.99 63.62 67.37 8.50 8.14 8.50 8.43 8.54 0.00 15 3z+2t+2lo, 3z, 3f, 2t+3t, 3lo, 3s, 2a^2a
9 Elena RADIONOVA MOS 130.62 60.67 69.95 8.75 8.54 8.71 8.79 8.93 0.00 6 3z+2t, 1f, 3z+1lo+3s, 3lo+2t, 2a, 3lo, 2a
10 Serafima SAKHANOVICH SPB 129.86 65.68 64.18 8.04 7.79 8.07 8.04 8.18 0.00 12 3f+3t, 3z!, 2a, 3s+3t, 1a, 3f, 3lo+2t+2t
11 Sofia SAMODUROVA SPB 129.44 67.08 62.36 7.75 7.54 7.96 7.86 7.86 0.00 11
12 Anna TARUSINA MOS 129.13 69.30 59.83 7.54 7.29 7.61 7.39 7.57 0.00 8
13 Valeriia MIKHAILOVA MOS 122.72 64.84 57.88 7.25 7.00 7.32 7.29 7.32 0.00 4
14 Anastasiia GULIAKOVA MOS 121.52 61.67 60.85 7.71 7.32 7.64 7.61 7.75 1.00 9
15 Alena LEONOVA SPB 114.57 49.89 64.68 8.14 7.86 8.00 8.21 8.21 0.00 2
16 Sofia ISTOMINA MOS 111.96 54.16 57.80 7.36 7.00 7.11 7.29 7.36 0.00 5
17 Lidia YAKOVLEVA SPB 108.35 56.62 51.73 6.61 6.36 6.39 6.54 6.43 0.00 3
18 Anastasia GRACHEVA MOS 105.13 54.02 52.11 6.64 6.32 6.43 6.61 6.57 1.00 1


FINAL STANDINGS LADIES

1 - Alina ZAGITOVA 233.59 1 1
2 - Maria SOTSKOVA 221.76 2 2
3 - Alena KOSTORNAIA 216.57 4 4
4 - Stanislava KONSTANTINOVA 211.28 10 3
5 - Polina TSURSKAYA 207.61 3 6
6 - Anastasiia GUBANOVA 206.60 5 5
7 - Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA 202.06 6 8
8 - Daria PANENKOVA 201.97 7 7
9 - Serafima SAKHANOVICH 197.44 8 10
10 - Elena RADIONOVA 196.78 13 9
11 - Sofia SAMODUROVA 196.51 9 11
12 - Anna TARUSINA 195.59 11 12
13 - Anastasiia GULIAKOVA 187.87 12 14
14 - Valeriia MIKHAILOVA 186.51 14 13
15 - Alena LEONOVA 176.72 16 15
16 - Sofia ISTOMINA 174.05 17 16
17 - Anastasia GRACHEVA 167.30 15 18
18 - Lidia YAKOVLEVA 160.78 18 17


PAIRS FREE SKATE

1 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV M/T 147.98 71.47 76.51 9.64 9.46 9.54 9.57 9.61 0.00 12
2 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV MOS 139.23 64.77 76.46 9.61 9.54 9.32 9.64 9.68 2.00 11
3 Natalia ZABIIAKO / Alexander ENBERT KRR 132.51 65.02 69.49 8.82 8.61 8.54 8.71 8.75 2.00 10
4 Kristina ASTAKHOVA / Alexei ROGONOV MOS 128.76 60.29 68.47 8.54 8.46 8.43 8.68 8.68 0.00 9
5 Aleksandra BOIKOVA / Dmitrii KOZLOVSKII SPB 127.60 64.94 62.66 7.89 7.57 7.89 7.89 7.93 0.00 7
6 Daria PAVLIUCHENKO / Denis KHODYKIN MOS 126.54 66.38 60.16 7.46 7.32 7.61 7.57 7.64 0.00 8
7 Anastasia MISHINA / Aleksandr GALIAMOV SPB 121.98 63.32 58.66 7.43 7.07 7.39 7.39 7.39 0.00 5
8 Apollinariia PANFILOVA / Dmitry RYLOV PER 118.54 61.49 57.05 7.14 6.86 7.36 7.18 7.11 0.00 4
9 Anastasia POLUIANOVA / Dmitry SOPOT PER 118.02 62.99 55.03 6.89 6.68 6.96 6.86 7.00 0.00 2
10 Alisa EFIMOVA / Alexander KOROVIN SPB 113.19 53.59 59.60 7.54 7.32 7.29 7.54 7.57 0.00 6
11 Tatiana LYIROVA / Maksim SELKIN PER 108.71 56.27 52.44 6.64 6.32 6.68 6.64 6.50 0.00 3
12 Bogdana LUKASHEVICH / Alexander STEPANOV SPB 92.39 46.56 47.83 6.32 5.82 5.79 6.04 5.93 2.00 1


FINAL STANDINGS PAIRS

1 - Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROSOV 223.34 2 1
2 - Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV 215.55 1 2
3 - Natalia ZABIJAKO / Alexander ENBERT 207.51 3 3
4 - Kristina ASTAKHOVA / Alexei ROGONOV 198.41 4 4
5 - Aleksandra BOIKOVA / Dmitrii KOZLOVSKII 195.80 5 5
6 - Daria PAVLIUCHENKO / Denis KHODYKIN 191.61 6 6
7 - Anastasiia MISHINA / Alexander GALLYAMOV 185.83 7 7
8 - Apollinariia PANFILOVA / Dmitry RYLOV 181.18 9 8
9 - Alisa EFIMOVA / Alexander KOROVIN 176.63 8 10
10 - Anastasia POLUYANOVA / Dmitry SOPOT 174.12 10 9
11 - Tatiana LIYROVA / Maksim SELKIN 164.22 11 11
12 - Bogdana LUKASHEVICH / Alexander STEPANOV 144.73 12 12
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby chuckiem » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:02 pm

I don't like T/M's FS either. In fact, I haven't liked any of their freeskates in the past 3 years. They have excellent skating skills, but they have zero personality on the ice (he is far worse than she), and when they try to do something that brings out personality, it falls flat. They'd be better off sticking to classical music, IMO.
This FS is especially bad when they skate after the Germans or the Chinese---it is groanworthy.
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby Maleeva » Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:14 pm

I really like Stanislava. I’ve never seen her skate before:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZVCxUkQEBg

Alina Zagitova gave an Olympic Gold Medal caliber performance. Even if Medvedeva comes back, well, I’m not sure she can beat AZ. I think AZ has the better free program.

Radionova and Leonova? Yikes. I’m wondering if 10th and 15th place finishes here is a glimpse to the end of their successful careers?
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby Jonas » Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:26 pm

I do hope that Medvedeva gets healthy enough for Europeans, so that we can watch a pre-Pyeongchang duel between her and training mate Zagitova. I concur that the Olympic gold will be very much between these two skaters from Russia. Neither is my favorite, but I'd be shocked if the 2018 Olympic Champion isn't one of these two.

Among the Russian wunderbabies, I think I like Kostornaia the best. She's a member of Eteri Tuberidze's stable, but her speed and ice coverage, IMO, is even better than either Medvedeva's or Zagitova's. Of course, we'll have to see what the puberty monster brings.

Speaking of puberty monster, just four years ago an age ineligible Radionova made such a splash in her senior debut, qualifying for the Grand Prix Final. She's won two European silvers and a World bronze two years later, but her body has blossomed into an attractive, more womanly body -- very attractive, but not necessarily ideal when you're competing against little pipsqueaks who can unleash triples with ease. She's still age eligible for this year's Jr. Worlds (not that she'd go this year), so I don't necessarily think her career is over unless she wants it to be. Her base technique is pretty solid, so if she can readjust to her body, I think she can still be competitive. I apply the same logic and have the same hope for Tuktamysheva and Pogorilaya. If Tuktamysheva continues to the next Olympiad, I suspect regaining a consistent 3Axel will be priority.

Leonova, I suspect, will retire through attrition. I have the most utmost respect for her as a competitor who doesn't give up, but she's clearly been passed technically. To be honest, I'm surprised she got two Grand Prix invites this season.

Your thoughts...
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby Jonas » Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:45 pm

It's been reported that Aleksandr Samarin and Dmitri Aliev will join Kolyada as Russia's men's team for Euros. I'm not sure if this means that Voronov is now completely out of the running for Pyeongchang.

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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby chuckiem » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:32 pm

Maleeva wrote:I really like Stanislava. I’ve never seen her skate before:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZVCxUkQEBg



Stanislava has skated in the JGP before, and she competed this season in 3 Challenge events: she won two, beating Fedichkina and Tuktamysheva but lost to Sakhanovich. Her problem has been consistency---you never know if she's going to skate great or far from her best.
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby Dragonlady » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:59 pm

Maleeva wrote:I really like Stanislava. I’ve never seen her skate before:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZVCxUkQEBg

Alina Zagitova gave an Olympic Gold Medal caliber performance. Even if Medvedeva comes back, well, I’m not sure she can beat AZ. I think AZ has the better free program.

Radionova and Leonova? Yikes. I’m wondering if 10th and 15th place finishes here is a glimpse to the end of their successful careers?


I strongly disagree about Zagitova. She’s a junior jumping bean and quite frankly, I’m tired of these young Russian girls with no power, junior level stroking, no depth of edge or decent ice coverage getting 9’s in skating skills, transitions or performance. The +2’s for small jumps with no ice coverage is ridiculous as well.

Judges need to be reminded that a 70 point technical score doesn’t mean the skater should get automatically get 70 plus for PCS unless their skating has the speed, flow and ice coverage at the very top of ability. Immature skating with shallow edges in the middle of the ice doesn’t meet that standard.
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby Maleeva » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:51 pm

Dragonlady wrote:
Maleeva wrote:I really like Stanislava. I’ve never seen her skate before:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZVCxUkQEBg

Alina Zagitova gave an Olympic Gold Medal caliber performance. Even if Medvedeva comes back, well, I’m not sure she can beat AZ. I think AZ has the better free program.

Radionova and Leonova? Yikes. I’m wondering if 10th and 15th place finishes here is a glimpse to the end of their successful careers?


I strongly disagree about Zagitova. She’s a junior jumping bean and quite frankly, I’m tired of these young Russian girls with no power, junior level stroking, no depth of edge or decent ice coverage getting 9’s in skating skills, transitions or performance. The +2’s for small jumps with no ice coverage is ridiculous as well.

Judges need to be reminded that a 70 point technical score doesn’t mean the skater should get automatically get 70 plus for PCS unless their skating has the speed, flow and ice coverage at the very top of ability. Immature skating with shallow edges in the middle of the ice doesn’t meet that standard.


I don’t necessarily disagree with you dragonlady, but I was specifically referring to this program. Did you watch it? She performed it well and with musicality. She is able to listen to the music and actually interpret the choreography to the accents within the music. Many top level skaters amazingly do not have that skill. This was the first time I have ever really enjoyed one of her performances. I also appreciate her ability to center her spins. Here is the clip:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=11s&v=14w7jZeqvqw
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Re: 2018 RUSSIAN NATIONALS

Postby Dragonlady » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:03 pm

Yes I watched it and she is very musical, but the program is an abomination with the back loading and the hand over the head in every jump. I do find it difficult to watch these programs and do anything but roll my eyes at the construction or the scoring.

I like young Russian skaters but their programs are awful. That’s the fault of their coaches and choreographers, not the skaters. Often the themes are beyond their emotional range, like Medvedeva’s 9/11 program, and their ice coverage leaves a lot to be desired - both in terms of using the entire ice surface, and in height and distance on their jumps.
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