2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby chuckiem » Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:21 pm

START ORDER PAIRS SHORT PROGRAM Fri Nov 10 2:20 pm local time / 00:20 am EST // Olympic Channel 1:00-2:00 pm EST

1 Miu SUZAKI / Ryuichi KIHARA JPN
2 Sumire SUTO / Francis BOUDREAU-AUDET JPN
3 Alexa SCIMECA-KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM USA
4 Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT

5 Kristina ASTAKHOVA / Alexei ROGONOV RUS
6 Julianne SEGUIN / Charlie BILODEAU CAN
7 Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN CHN
8 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV RUS

Tech Team

Ref Worsfold-GBR
TC Noyes-AUS
TS Magri-ITA
ATS Arai-JPN

Judges: USA LAT ITA CAN AUT RUS UKR JPN CHN

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START ORDER LADIES SHORT PROGRAM Fri Nov 10 4:10 pm local time / 2:10 am EST // Olympic Channel 7-8:30 am or 11:30 am-1pm EST

1 Alena LEONOVA RUS
2 Polina TSURSKAYA RUS
3 Alaine CHARTRAND CAN
4 Soyoun PARK KOR
5 Yuna SHIRAIWA JPN
6 Nicole RAJICOVA SVK

7 Mariah BELL USA
8 Carolina KOSTNER ITA
9 Mirai NAGASU USA
10 Rika HONGO JPN
11 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN
12 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS

Tech Team

Ref Worsfold-GBR
TC Noyes-AUS
TS Cejvan-SLO
ATS Cruickshank-CAN

Judges: AUT SVK JPN ITA CZE RUS KOR USA CAN

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START ORDER MEN SHORT PROGRAM Fri Nov 10 7:05 pm local time / 5:05 am EST // Olympic Channel 8:30-10:30 am or 4:30-6:30 pm EST

1 Hiroaki SATO JPN
2 Kazuki TOMONO JPN
3 Keegan MESSING CAN
4 Nam NGUYEN CAN
5 Michal BREZINA CZE
6 Sergei VORONOV RUS

7 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT
8 Dmitri ALIEV RUS
9 Adam RIPPON USA
10 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR
11 Jason BROWN USA
12 Yuzuru HANYU JPN

Tech Team

Ref Kogan-RUS
TC Billow-SWE
TS Cruickshank-CAN
ATS Cejvan-SLO

Judges: RUS SVK ISR CAN USA CZE LAT JPN KOR

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START ORDER SHORT DANCE Sat Nov 11 12:45 pm local time / Fri Nov 10 10:45 pm EST

1 Misato KOMATSUBARA / Timothy KOLETO JPN
2 * Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND GBR
3 Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR
4 Kana MURAMOTO / Chris REED JPN
5 Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV RUS

6 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LEGAC FRA
7 Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolai SORENSON DEN
8 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN
9 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA
10 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LA NOTTE ITA

* replaced TOBIAS / TKACHENKO

Tech Team

Ref SHEKHOVTSEVA-RUS
TC Molina-FRA
TS Tumanovskaya-Chaika-UKR
ATS Tsuzuki-JPN

Judges: FRA RUS ITA ISR CAN USA UKR CHN JPN

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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby GoFigure » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:28 am

Yuzu has withdrawn due to injury. :(
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby Maleeva » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:59 am

Very sad for Yuzu. I sure hope he makes a speedy recovery. So no Chan, Fernandez and Yuzu in the GPF. Three new spots open for the men.
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby Virginia » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:38 pm

,.. holy cow. Who could have imagined that the GP Final two months before the Olympics would take place without Hanyu, Fernanzez or Chan?

Unbelievable.
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby chuckiem » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:48 pm

RESULTS PAIRS SHORT PROGRAM

1 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV RUS 75.05 38.02 37.03 9.25 9.00 9.25 9.32 9.46 0.00 8
2 Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN CHN 79.43 41.74 37.69 9.32 9.32 9.46 9.54 9.46 0.00 7
3 Julianne SEGUIN / Charlie BILODEAU CAN 63.98 31.95 32.03 8.00 7.93 7.86 8.18 8.07 0.00 6
4 Kristina ASTAKHOVA / Alexei ROGONOV RUS 70.47 38.32 32.15 7.93 7.93 8.11 8.11 8.11 0.00 5
5 Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT 62.61 33.27 29.34 7.32 7.11 7.39 7.43 7.43 0.00 4
6 Alexa SCIMECA-KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM USA 65.86 35.20 30.66 7.64 7.36 7.71 7.79 7.82 0.00 3
7 Sumire SUTO / Francis BOUDREAU-AUDET JPN 51.69 26.17 25.52 6.50 6.21 6.32 6.50 6.36 0.00 2
8 Miu SUZAKI / Ryuichi KIHARA JPN 44.80 22.90 22.90 22.93 5.93 5.39 5.71 5.89 1.00 1

START ORDER PAIRS FREESKATE Sat Nov 11 2:35 pm local time / 00:35 am EST // not sched Sat Olympic Channel; will watch later on IceNetwk

1 Miu SUZAKI / Ryuichi KIHARA JPN
2 Sumire SUTO / Francis BOUDREAU-AUDET JPN
3 Julianne SEGUIN / Charlie BILODEAU CAN
4 Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT

5 Alexa SCIMECA-KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM USA
6 Kristina ASTAKHOVA / Alexei ROGONOV RUS
7 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV RUS
8 Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN CHN

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RESULTS MEN SHORT PROGRAM

1 Sergei VORONOV RUS 90.06 49.18 40.88 8.25 7.89 8.39 8.21 8.14 0.00 6 4t+3t, 3z, 3a
2 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR 85.52 45.84 39.68 7.93 7.57 8.11 8.07 8.00 0.00 10 3a, 4t, 3z+2t
3 Jason BROWN USA 85.36 40.58 44.78 8.82 8.82 8.93 9.07 9.14 0.00 11 3a-so, 3z, 3f+2t
4 Adam RIPPON USA 84.95 43.16 41.79 8.32 8.11 8.43 8.36 8.57 0.00 9 3f+3t, 3a, 3z
5 Keegan MESSING CAN 80.13 42.37 38.76 7.75 7.50 7.86 7.79 7.86 1.00 3 4t-low+3t, 3a↓, 3z
6 Kazuki TOMONO JPN 79.88 43.80 36.08 7.29 6.93 7.39 7.18 7.29 0.00 2 4s-fwd, 3f+3t, 3a
7 Dmitri ALIEV RUS 77.57 39.46 39.11 7.96 7.79 7.68 7.93 7.75 1.00 8 4z<↓, 4t+2t, 3a-hd
8 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 76.51 38.54 38.97 7.86 7.54 7.82 7.82 7.93 1.00 7 3z+3t, 3a↓, 3f
9 Michal BREZINA CZE 76.24 37.28 39.96 8.07 7.61 8.07 8.00 8.21 1.00 5 4s<↓, 3a, 3z+2t
10 Hiroaki SATO JPN 75.95 40.56 35.39 7.25 6.82 7.14 7.07 7.11 0.00 1 3a-wild, 4t+2t, 3z-fwd
11 Nam NGUYEN CAN 65.82 32.76 35.06 7.14 6.75 6.96 7.25 6.96 2.00 4 4t<↓, 4s↓-nc, 3a
wd Yuzuru HANYU JPN


START ORDER MEN FREE SKATE Sat Nov 11 7:30 pm local time / 5:30 am EST // not sched Sat Olympic Channel; will watch later on IceNetwk

1 Nam NGUYEN CAN
2 Hiroaki SATO JPN
3 Dmitri ALIEV RUS
4 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT
5 Michal BREZINA CZE

6 Adam RIPPON USA
7 Keegan MESSING CAN
8 Kazuki TOMONO JPN
9 Sergei VORONOV RUS
10 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR
11 Jason BROWN USA

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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby Jonas » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:42 pm

Chuckie, don't you live in NJ also?? Do you have Optimum??

I just checked the schedule and Olympic Channel will have pairs free live from 12:30-2 a.m., ladies free from 3-5 a.m., and men's free from 5:30-7:30 a.m. And yes, I'm actually gonna stay up and watch LIVE!
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby chuckiem » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:22 pm

I have DirecTV and yes, I can watch it live, but I just can't disrupt my sleep cycle any more with an all-nighter. I used to do that, and sometimes it took a week until I was able to sleep normally. One good thing: the SD starts at 10:45 pm and and the FD starts at 9:45 pm, so I can watch both live.

The OC isn't showing NHK later during the day on Saturday the way they did on Friday, or on Saturday last week. Apparently there are a lot of other pre-Olympic sports getting hot right now, and that's what they'll be showing tomorrow. But i do have IceNetwork, so when I get up tomorrow at 8am or so I can go on there and watch the replays---which are a LOT better than the live showings---no buffering. And I can post the results more quickly.

At least for the next two weeks it's reasonable hours. Then it's back to the agony for the GPF.
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby chuckiem » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:27 pm

RESULTS LADIES SHORT PROGRAM

1 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS 79.99 41.71 38.28 9.43 9.57 9.64 9.54 9.68 0.00 12 3f+3t, 3lo, 2a
2 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 74.57 37.25 37.32 9.21 9.18 9.36 9.36 9.54 0.00 8 3t+3t, 3lo, 2a
3 Polina TSURSKAYA RUS 70.04 38.78 31.26 7.82 7.57 7.96 7.79 7.93 0.00 2 3z+3t, 3lo, 2a
4 Rika HONGO JPN 65.83 34.00 31.83 7.96 7.79 8.11 7.89 8.04 0.00 10 3f+3t, 3z<!, 2a
5 Mirai NAGASU USA 65.17 34.45 30.72 7.82 7.29 7.82 7.68 7.79 0.00 9 3a-df, 3f+3t<, 3z<!
6 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN 65.05 31.02 34.03 8.50 8.29 8.54 8.50 8.71 0.00 11 3z<+2t, 3lo, 2a
7 Alena LEONOVA RUS 63.61 34.13 29.48 7.39 7.04 7.50 7.39 7.54 0.00 1 3t+3t, 3f, 2a
8 Yuna SHIRAIWA JPN 57.34 28.86 28.48 7.46 6.89 7.04 7.07 7.14 0.00 5 3z!+3t<<, 2a, 3f
9 Mariah BELL USA 57.25 26.94 30.31 7.54 7.29 7.64 7.68 7.75 0.00 7 3z!+3t<, 2f*, 2a
10 Nicole RAJICOVA SVK 53.36 27.33 27.03 6.82 6.57 6.64 6.86 6.89 1.00 6 3t+3t<, 3z<↓, 2a
11 Soyoun PARK KOR 51.54 24.24 27.30 7.00 6.61 6.79 6.86 6.86 0.00 4 2s*+2t, 3lo, 2a
12 Alaine CHARTRAND CAN 49.60 23.06 27.54 6.89 6.79 6.71 7.11 6.93 1.00 3 3z↓, 3lo<+2t, 2a<


START ORDER LADIES FREE SKATE Sat Nov 11 4:40 pm local time / 2:40 am EST /

1 Alaine CHARTRAND CAN
2 Nicole RAJICOVA SVK
3 Soyoun PARK KOR
4 Alena LEONOVA RUS
5 Yuna SHIRAIWA JPN
6 Mariah BELL USA

7 Rika HONGO JPN
8 Mirai NAGASU USA
9 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN
10 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS
11 Polina TSURSKAYA RUS
12 Carolina KOSTNER ITA
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby Maleeva » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:02 pm

I would have had Rippon in 2nd place here. I prefer his short program to Jason Brown's and I think Adam's PCS is at least three points better than Bychenko. Props to Voronov for being 30 years old yet still delivering an aggressive program full of machismo. Tomono shows promise. I like his style.
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby chuckiem » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:31 am

I don't understand why Olympic Network chacked Alena Leonova (who apparently skated very well) in favor of a second subpar performance from Alaine Chartrand. I can't help wondering what has happened to Alaine, who electrified all of Canada with her performance at 2016 Nationals. They did show Polina Tsurskaya's SP, which was quite wonderful and IMO a bit underscored.
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby chuckiem » Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:50 am

RESULTS SHORT DANCE

1 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN 80.92 42.28 38.64 9.57 9.57 9.71 9.61 9.82 0.00 8
2 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 76.31 40.30 36.01 9.04 8.82 9.04 9.04 9.07 0.00 9
3 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LA NOTTE ITA 75.87 39.45 36.42 8.96 8.93 9.18 9.14 9.32 0.00 10
4 Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV RUS 72.49 37.18 35.31 8.75 8.68 8.96 8.89 8.86 0.00 5
5 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND GBR 65.64 33.44 32.20 7.96 7.86 8.07 8.21 8.14 0.00 2
6 Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolai SORENSON DEN 65.34 34.21 31.13 7.79 7.61 7.82 7.82 7.86 0.00 7
7 Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR 63.33 32.79 30.54 7.64 7.46 7.68 7.79 7.61 0.00 3
8 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LEGAC FRA 62.79 33.67 29.12 7.36 7.04 7.43 7.32 7.25 0.00 6
9 Kana MURAMOTO / Chris REED JPN 61.82 31.44 30.38 7.61 7.36 7.71 7.68 7.61 0.00 4
10 Misato KOMATSUBARA / Timothy KOLETO JPN 53.83 28.06 25.77 6.46 6.25 6.50 6.68 6.32 0.00 1

START ORDER FREE DANCE Sun Nov 12 11:45 am local time / Sat 9:45 pm EST :)

1 Misato KOMATSUBARA / Timothy KOLETO JPN
2 Kana MURAMOTO / Chris REED JPN
3 Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolai SORENSON DEN
4 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LEGAC FRA
5 Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR

6 Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV RUS
7 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND GBR
8 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN
9 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LA NOTTE ITA
10 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby chuckiem » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:36 am

RESULTS PAIRS FREE SKATE

1 Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN CHN 155.10 78.54 76.56 9.43 9.46 9.68 9.64 9.64 0.00 8
2 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV RUS 147.69 72.56 75.13 9.39 9.25 9.36 9.39 9.57 0.00 7
3 Kristina ASTAKHOVA / Alexei ROGONOV RUS 133.17 67.24 65.93 8.18 8.14 8.25 8.39 8.25 0.00 6
4 Julianne SEGUIN / Charlie BILODEAU CAN 130.39 66.26 64.13 7.86 7.86 8.18 8.04 8.14 0.00 3
5 Alexa SCIMECA-KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM USA 126.65 61.91 64.74 8.00 7.93 8.07 8.25 8.21 0.00 5
6 Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT 108.52 53.54 56.98 7.36 7.00 6.89 7.25 7.11 2.00 4
7 Sumire SUTO / Francis BOUDREAU-AUDET JPN 104.83 54.04 50.79 6.50 6.21 6.32 6.46 6.25 0.00 2
8 Miu SUZAKI / Ryuichi KIHARA JPN 95.15 47.86 47.29 6.14 5.64 5.89 5.93 5.96 0.00 1

FINAL STANDINGS PAIRS

1 - Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN CHN 234.53 1 1
2 - Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV RUS 222.74 2 2
3 - Kristina ASTAKHOVA / Alexei ROGONOV RUS 203.64 3 3
4 - Julianne SEGUIN / Charlie BILODEAU CAN 194.37 5 4
5 - Alexa SCIMECA-KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM USA 192.51 4 5
6 - Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT 171.13 6 6
7 - Sumire SUTO / Francis BOUDREAU-AUDET JPN 156.52 7 7
8 - Miu SUZAKI / Ryuichi KIHARA JPN 139.98 8 8


SUI / HAN and STOLBOVA / KLIMOV become the first pairs to make the GPF.

At this point, it seems NO pair is competitive with SUI / HAN. They are just superb. It didn't seem they could match their CoC performance, but they even surpassed it at NHK.
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby bumphystars » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:43 pm

Totally agree on Sui/Han. If they continue to deliver and they win OGM—and they are far-away favourites to do so—they will be among the all-time greats.
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby Maleeva » Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:35 pm

Only one under rotation in her free program ? Mirai should hire this tech panel full time LOL.

So glad Adam won silver here. Now he has a solid chance to make the GPF.

Medvedeva getting a 9.75 in PCS Performance for that free program? Makes me belly laugh.

Voronov getting a 9.25 for PCS Interpretation is funny too, but you know, the man delivered and deserved the win here.

Hoping HubDon can hold off CapLan tomorrow for silver. Could go either way.
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby Jonas » Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:26 pm

PAIRS:
Sui & Han were the class of pairs field here, but I wouldn't say it was a runaway like it was last week in CHN. Stolbova & Klimov seem to have gotten their mojo back here. Only flub for them was on their triple-triple.

Second medal on the Grand Prix for Astakhova & Rogonov. I never really got why this team scores so well relative to some of the other B+ European teams, i.e., the Italian teams, but gotta say they're more gelled as a pair this season. They don't have the smoothness of Nina Mozer's teams, but they look less awkward and labored in their transitions and she appears to be jumping better. They're definitely contenders for Pyeongchang.

Very nice FS also from Seguin & Bilodeau!

MEN:
Excellent effort from Adam Rippon on that 4Lutz attempt and just a great performance overall! Well deserved. Looking forward, he should try and replace that 3flip with a 4toe as his second pass. Fourth American man to medal in this season's Grand Prix!

Keegan Messing landed a beautiful second 3Axel in the bonus! Problem was that he had already repeated 3Lutz and 3toe prior, so the second 3Axel was invalidated. Had he just done 3Lutz-2toe and that 3Axel, he may have managed to beat Jason Brown, which would've been a huge resume booster for him! I'm rooting for him to get CAN's second Olympic ticket.

Jason Brown had the opening to win this whole thing, but just wasn't able to take it. Voronov seized the opportunity instead and put himself back in the conversation among the Russian men.

LADIES
Polina Tsurskaya didn't put a foot wrong in her Grand Prix debut. I thought that she would finish ahead of Kostner overall. She should've, IMO, but the judges just love them some Carolina Kostner seemingly unconditionally! :?

Rough return to competition for Satoko Miyahara, which is to be expected, but the timing just couldn't be worse given how tough the Japanese ladies' field is right now.

So, it looks like Mirai is banking on the go big or go home strategy with the 3Axel. Not a bad strategy, but it hasn't worked well for her thusfar. She has about six weeks to really get it ready, but along w/working on the 3Axel, she needs to figure out how to perform to her music. This could be a great program for her, but she looks like she could just as well be skating her program w/no music on. Compare this to Alena Leonova, who was just so invested in her performance and was just a joy to watch! I would've had Leonova ahead of Nagasu in the FS, at least, if not overall.

Your thoughts...
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby chuckiem » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:34 pm

RESULTS LADIES FREESKATE

1 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS 144.40 70.60 74.80 9.36 9.39 9.18 9.43 9.39 1.00 10 3f↓, 3z, 3f+3t, 3lo, 2a+2t+2t, 3s+3t, 2a
2 Polina TSURSKAYA RUS 140.15 74.38 65.77 8.36 8.00 8.32 8.21 8.21 0.00 11 3z+3t, 3f, 2a+3t+2t, 3z, 3s+2t, 3z, 3s+2t, 3lo, 2a
3 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 137.67 62.96 75.71 9.39 9.39 9.36 9.50 9.68 1.00 12 3f+2t, 3f, 3lo, 2t, 2a+1lo+3s↓, 2a, 3s+2t*
4 Mirai NAGASU USA 129.29 66.20 63.09 8.07 7.57 8.11 7.82 7.86 0.00 8 3a<, 3f+3t, 3s, 2a+2t+2lo, 3z, 3lo+2t, 3lo
5 Alena LEONOVA RUS 127.34 65.22 62.12 7.61 7.50 8.04 7.71 7.96 0.00 4 3t+3t, 3z, 2a, 3f+2t, 3f, 3s+2t+2lo, 2a
6 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN 126.75 58.23 68.52 8.68 8.43 8.46 8.57 8.68 0.00 9 3lo, 3z+3t<, 2f, 3z+2t+2lo, 2a<, 2s, 2a+3t
7 Rika HONGO JPN 122.00 58.55 64.45 7.96 7.79 8.25 8.07 8.21 1.00 7 3f+3t<, 3s, 3z!, 2a+3t<+2t, 3lo, 3f<<↓, 2a+2t
8 Yuna SHIRAIWA JPN 114.60 55.29 59.31 7.61 7.14 7.57 7.39 7.36 0.00 5 3z+3t, 2a, 3z+3t, 3s<, 3f, 2a<, 2lo
9 Alaine CHARTRAND CAN 109.76 55.03 55.73 7.07 6.75 6.86 7.11 7.04 1.00 1 3z+3t, 3f<!, 2a+1lo+3s<, 3z<↓, 3lo<, 3s, 2a+2lo
10 Mariah BELL USA 108.79 52.84 57.95 7.36 7.18 7.07 7.32 7.29 2.00 6 3z, 3lo, 2a+2t, 2a, 3z+1lo+3s<↓, 3f<↓, 3f+2t
11 Nicole RAJICOVA SVK 106.42 51.27 55.15 7.04 6.68 6.93 6.89 6.93 0.00 2 2a+1lo+2s, 3f, 3z+2t<, 2z, 3lo<+2t, 3lo, 3t
12 Soyoun PARK KOR 84.25 35.19 50.06 6.50 6.21 6.11 6.25 6.21 1.00 3 3lo, 1a+2t, 3f, 0 fcsp, 2a+3t<, 3s<↓, 1lo+1t, 2s


FINAL STANDINGS LADIES

1 - Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS 224.39 1 1
2 - Carolina KOSTNER ITA 212.24 2 3
3 - Polina TSURSKAYA RUS 210.19 3 2
4 - Mirai NAGASU USA 194.46 5 4
5 - Satoko MIYAHARA JPN 191.80 6 6
6 - Alena LEONOVA RUS 190.95 7 5
7 - Rika HONGO JPN 187.83 4 7
8 - Yuna SHIRAIWA JPN 171.94 8 8
9 - Mariah BELL USA 166.04 9 10
10 - Nicole RAJICOVA SVK 159.78 10 11
11 - Alaine CHARTRAND CAN 159.36 12 9
12 - Soyoun PARK KOR 135.79 11 12

MEDVEDEVA and KOSTNER make the GPF. And TSURSKAYA makes a smashing debut.

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FREESKATE RESULTS MEN

1 Sergei VORONOV RUS 181.06 94.34 86.72 8.71 8.29 8.89 8.68 8.79 0.00 9 4t+3t, 3a, 4t, 3a+2t+2lo, 3z+2t, 3s, 3lo, 2a
2 Adam RIPPON USA 177.04 91.46 85.58 8.54 8.29 8.75 8.46 8.75 0.00 6 4z<, 3f+2lo, 3lo, 3a+2t+2lo, 3a, 3f+3t, 3s, 3z
3 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR 166.55 85.85 80.70 8.14 7.89 8.18 8.07 8.07 0.00 10 4t+3t, 4t, 2lo, 3a, 3a+2t, 3z, 3f+1lo+3s, 2a
4 Jason BROWN USA 160.59 72.73 89.86 8.89 8.93 8.79 9.11 9.21 2.00 11 3f, 3a↓, 2a, 3a<↓+rep, 3z, 3lo+1lo+3s, 3z+3t
5 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 158.29 76.43 81.86 8.11 7.89 8.21 8.29 8.43 0.00 4 3a+2t, 1a, 3a, 3lo, 3z+3t, 2a, 1f, 3z+1lo+3s
6 Keegan MESSING CAN 155.67 74.59 81.08 8.18 7.86 8.18 8.11 8.21 0.00 7 3z, 4t, 3a+2t+2lo, 3t, 3z+3t, 3a*, 3lo, 3fe+2t
7 Kazuki TOMONO JPN 152.05 75.69 77.36 7.71 7.46 7.79 7.86 7.86 1.00 8 4s<, 4s<↓+rep, 3a+3t, 3a+2t+2lo, 3lo, 3s, 3z!+2t, 3f
8 Nam NGUYEN CAN 148.69 78.49 70.20 7.21 6.68 7.00 7.07 7.14 0.00 1 2t, 2s, 3a, 4s+3t, 3a+2t, 3lo, 3f, 3z!+3t
9 Dmitri ALIEV RUS 145.94 70.52 77.42 7.89 7.50 7.61 7.89 7.82 2.00 3 3z, 3f↓, 2t, 4t+3t, 4t<↓, 3lo+1lo+3s, 3a<, 3z+rep
10 Michal BREZINA CZE 144.21 66.35 79.86 8.07 7.79 7.89 8.11 8.07 2.00 5 2s, 3a+2t, 4s<↓, 3a, 3lo, 3f↓, 3z, 3s
11 Hiroaki SATO JPN 123.25 55.67 68.58 7.04 6.54 6.75 7.00 6.96 1.00 2 3a, 4t, 4t<↓+rep, 3a+2t, 3f, 3z, 3s, 1lo



FINAL STANDINGS MEN

1 - Sergei VORONOV RUS 271.12 1 1
2 - Adam RIPPON USA 261.99 4 2
3 - Alexei BYCHENKO ISR 252.07 2 3
4 - Jason BROWN USA 245.95 3 4
5 - Keegan MESSING CAN 235.80 5 6
6 - Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 234.80 8 5
7 - Kazuki TOMONO JPN 231.93 6 7
8 - Dmitri ALIEV RUS 223.51 7 9
9 - Michal BREZINA CZE 220.45 9 10
10 - Nam NGUYEN CAN 214.51 11 8
11 - Hiroaki SATO JPN 199.20 10 11

Jason BROWN loses out on a GPF slot.
BYCHENKO skates next week at TDF against Shoma UNO, Max AARON and Vincent ZHOU.
VORONOV and RIPPON go on to GPUSA to face Nathan CHEN and Boyang JIN.
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby chuckiem » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:55 pm

Jonas wrote:LADIES
Polina Tsurskaya didn't put a foot wrong in her Grand Prix debut. I thought that she would finish ahead of Kostner overall. She should've, IMO, but the judges just love them some Carolina Kostner seemingly unconditionally! :?


Polina probably should have beaten Caro, but the judges weren't going to let a brand-newbie beat the veteran artiste---all they had to do was pile on the PCS. Caught the NBC recap and couldn't disagree more with Tara and Johnny about Polina's 'lack of artistry'. Sure, she doesn't hold those moves yet, but she sure does relate to her music and shows it with every move and facial expression. The judges agree: she's already getting all 8s in PCS.

So, it looks like Mirai is banking on the go big or go home strategy with the 3Axel. Not a bad strategy, but it hasn't worked well for her thusfar. She has about six weeks to really get it ready, but along w/working on the 3Axel, she needs to figure out how to perform to her music. This could be a great program for her, but she looks like she could just as well be skating her program w/no music on. Compare this to Alena Leonova, who was just so invested in her performance and was just a joy to watch! I would've had Leonova ahead of Nagasu in the FS, at least, if not overall.


I agree that the 3A alone isn't going to do it for Mirai. Polina doesn't have a 3A and never will, but she outscored Mirai in the FS by nearly 11 points, most in TES---Polina gets high GOE on all her elements--but also in PCS because Polina relates to her music and shows it. The only connection Mirai has to her music is her dress.
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby sms29s66 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:03 am

I am so pleased for Adam Rippon! And heartbroken for Jason Brown. He was crucial in getting our men three spots for the Olympics, but it doesn't appear that he is likely to be one of them since his chances for a medal are remote. I guess his job will continue to be done at Worlds. :(
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby chuckiem » Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:18 am

RESULTS FREE DANCE

1 VIRTUE / MOIR CAN 117.72 59.86 57.86 9.61 9.50 9.75 9.61 9.75 0.00 8
2 HUBBELL / DONOHUE USA 112.04 57.64 54.40 9.18 8.89 9.11 9.11 9.04 0.00 10
3 CAPPELLINI / LA NOTTE ITA 110.69 56.19 54.50 8.96 8.79 9.21 9.21 9.25 0.00 9
4 SINITSINA / KATSALAPOV RUS 104.66 51.69 52.97 8.82 8.64 8.75 9.00 8.93 0.00 6
5 FOURNIER BEAUDRY / SORENSON DEN 99.06 51.32 47.74 7.89 7.71 8.11 7.93 8.14 0.00 3
6 NAZAROVA / NIKITIN UKR 97.55 49.26 48.29 8.00 7.86 8.00 8.32 8.07 0.00 5
7 LAURIAULT / LEGAC FRA 94.83 49.48 45.35 7.43 7.36 7.61 7.68 7.71 0.00 4
8 MURAMOTO / REED JPN 94.59 48.62 45.97 7.54 7.39 7.79 7.79 7.79 0.00 2
9 COOMES / BUCKLAND GBR 92.51 45.07 47.44 7.82 7.75 7.93 8.14 7.89 0.00 7
10 KOMATSUBARA / KOLETO JPN 78.58 41.33 39.25 6.68 6.32 6.75 6.64 6.32 2.00 1


FINAL STANDINGS ICE DANCE

1 - Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN 198.64 1 1
2 - Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 188.35 2 2
3 - Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LA NOTTE ITA 186.56 3 3
4 - Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV RUS 177.15 4 4
5 - Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolai SORENSON DEN 164.40 6 5
6 - Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR 160.88 7 6
7 - Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND GBR 158.15 5 9
8 - Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LEGAC FRA 157.62 8 7
9 - Kana MURAMOTO / Chris REED JPN 156.41 9 8
10 - Misato KOMATSUBARA / Timothy KOLETO JPN 132.41 10 10

V/M become the first official ice dance team to make the GPF, and doubtless P/C will join them next week, as well as the Shibs at SA.
If one of Weaver/Poje or Chock'/Bates win silver next week at TDF, that will make four. Then the last two will come down to a tiebreaker.
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Re: 2017 GP#4 NHK 11/10-12 OSAKA JPN

Postby Maleeva » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:58 pm

After seeing all the programs from the top three American ice dance teams, I really believe this is the year the Hubbell and Donohue will win the national title. The Shibs will challenge them but I just think HubDon have the two stronger programs. I think Chock and Bates have chosen weak music for an Olympic free profram. To my mind it sounds like music for an exhibition performance.

I watched NHK coverage on Eurosport with British commentating (I think it is Chris Howarth and Simon Reed). I found it very interesting they said they actually preferred HubDon’s free dance to that of Virtue and Moir. Here is that clip:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=96IYdXf5nVM
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