GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby chuckiem » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:27 pm

START ORDER LADIES SHORT PROGRAM Fri Oct 27 12:57 pm local time / 2:57 pm EDT

1 Larkyn AUSTMAN CAN
2 Kailani CRAINE AUS
3 Courtney HICKS USA
4 Alaine CHARTRAND CAN
5 Laurine LECAVELIER FRA
6 Marin HONDA JPN

7 Rika HONGO JPN
8 Karen CHEN USA
9 Ashley WAGNER USA
10 Maria SOTSKOVA RUS
11 Anna POGORILAYA RUS
12 Kaetlyn OSMOND CAN

Tech Team:

Ref Hunter-CAN
TC Okabe-JPN
TS Fedronic-FRA
ATS Davis-USA

Judges: TUR CAN USA ITA BEL AUS JPN RUS KOR

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START ORDER SHORT DANCE Fri Oct 27 2:50 pm local time / 4:50 pm EDT

1 Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN
2 Olivia SMART / Adria DIAZ ESP
3 Kavita LORENZ / Joti POLIZOAKIS GER
4 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR
5 Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER USA

6 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV POL
7 Alla LOBODA / Pavel DROZD RUS
8 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN
9 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN
10 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA


Tech Team:

Ref Hoppe-GBR
TC Marron-USA
TS Lemay-CAN
ATS Baranov-UKR

Judges: GER TUR CAN USA ITA AUS RUS ESP POL

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START ORDER MEN SHORT PROGRAM Fri Oct 27 5:57 pm local time / 7:57 pm EDT

1 Keegan MESSING CAN
2 Nicolas NADEAU CAN
3 Paul FENTZ GER
4 Jun Hwan CHA KOR
5 Brendan KERRY AUS
6 Takahito MURA JPN

7 Michal BREZINA CZE
8 Jorik HENDRICKX BEL
9 Alexander SAMARIN RUS
10 Jason BROWN USA
11 Patrick CHAN CAN
12 Shoma UNO JPN


Tech Team:

Ref Rhee-KOR
TC Okabe-JPN
TS Davis-USA
ATS Fedronic-FRA

Judges: CAN FRA KOR RUS USA BEL AUS CZE JPN

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START ORDER PAIRS SHORT PROGRAM Fri Oct 27 7:48 pm local time / 9:48 pm EDT

1 Sydney KOLODZIEJ / Maxime DESCHAMPS CAN
2 Cheng PENG / Yang JIN CHN
3 Haven DENNEY / Brandon FRAZIER USA
4 Natalia ZABIJAKO / Alexander ENBERT RUS

5 Liubov ILYUSHECHKINA / Dylan MOSCOVITCH CAN
6 Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES FRA
7 Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT FRA
8 Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD CAN


Tech Team:

Ref Rhee-KOR
TC Rehorick-CAN
TS Kuznetsov-RUS
ATS Siudek-POL

Judges: FRA AUS CAN GER USA CZE ESP CHN RUS

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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby rosima » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:25 am

Weaver/Poje are going back to their “Je suis malade “ program from 2012. At least, that’s what they are practicing for Skate Canada.
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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby bumphystars » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:21 pm

I think this is a great call for them. TThey need to go for it, and if a program that is comfortable—and easily their most popular—brings them some momentum, then I say go for it. I'm generally not a fan of recycled programs but I think this is an exception.

chuckie, is it a requirement for the GP comps that a judge from the host country sits on the panel?
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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby chuckiem » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:12 pm

Not sure it's a requirement, but it would be unusual if a GP judging panel didn't have a host country judge.
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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby chuckiem » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:49 pm

RESULTS LADIES SHORT PROGRAM

1 Kaetlyn OSMOND CAN 76.06 40.12 35.94 8.89 8.75 9.14 9.07 9.07 0.00 12 3f+3t, 3z, 2a
2 Anna POGORILAYA RUS 69.05 35.98 33.07 8.36 8.00 8.36 8.29 8.32 0.00 11 3z+3t, 3lo, 2a
3 Maria SOTSKOVA RUS 66.10 34.39 31.71 7.93 7.75 8.07 7.93 7.96 0.00 10 3z+3t, 3lo, 2a<
4 Courtney HICKS USA 64.06 35.38 28.68 7.21 6.89 7.18 7.25 7.32 0.00 3 3f-to+3lo, 3z, 2a
5 Karen CHEN USA 61.77 31.34 30.43 7.57 7.54 7.54 7.64 7.75 0.00 8 3z-so, 3lo+2t, 2a
6 Rika HONGO JPN 61.60 32.27 29.33 7.21 7.21 7.43 7.43 7.39 0.00 7 3f+3t<, 3z, 2a
7 Ashley WAGNER USA 61.57 28.10 33.47 8.18 8.18 8.39 8.43 8.68 0.00 9 3f+3t<, 2a, 3lo<
8 Laurine LECAVELIER FRA 59.08 31.49 27.59 6.89 6.64 6.93 7.00 7.04 0.00 5 3z+3t<, 3lo, 2a
9 Kailani CRAINE AUS 54.96 28.17 26.79 6.57 6.39 6.89 6.75 6.89 0.00 2 3f<, 3lo+3lo<<, 2a
10 Marin HONDA JPN 52.60 24.77 28.83 7.29 7.07 7.04 7.25 7.39 1.00 6 3z+3t<↓, 3lo, 1a*
11 Alaine CHARTRAND CAN 46.51 21.34 26.17 6.75 6.46 6.11 6.71 6.68 1.00 4 3z↓, 3lo+3t<<, 1a*
12 Larkyn AUSTMAN CAN 41.79 18.36 24.43 6.21 5.96 5.82 6.25 6.29 1.00 1 3s-so+1t*, 3f<<↓, 2a


START ORDER LADIES FREE SKATE Sat Oct 28 11:04 am local time / 1:04 pm EDT

1 Marin HONDA JPN
2 Alaine CHARTRAND CAN
3 Larkyn AUSTMAN CAN
4 Kailani CRAINE AUS
5 Laurine LECAVELIER FRA
6 Ashley WAGNER USA

7 Karen CHEN USA
8 Rika HONGO JPN
9 Courtney HICKS USA
10 Maria SOTSKOVA RUS
11 Kaetlyn OSMOND CAN
12 Anna POGORILAYA RUS

Tech Team and Judges same as for SP

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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby chuckiem » Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:06 pm

RESULTS SHORT DANCE

1 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN 82.68 43.91 38.77 9.50 9.50 9.93 9.68 9.86 0.00 8
2 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN 77.47 40.69 36.78 9.04 9.00 9.32 9.25 9.36 0.00 9
3 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 76.08 40.57 36.51 8.96 8.93 9.29 9.14 9.32 1.00 10 time
4 Olivia SMART / Adria DIAZ ESP 64.34 34.53 29.81 7.36 7.21 7.61 7.46 7.61 0.00 2
5 Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER USA 63.10 32.47 30.63 7.57 7.43 7.75 7.68 7.86 0.00 5
6 Alla LOBODA / Pavel DROZD RUS 62.60 31.98 30.62 7.68 7.50 7.71 7.71 7.68 0.00 7
7 Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN 57.77 29.23 28.54 7.04 6.96 7.29 7.21 7.18 0.00 1
8 Kavita LORENZ / Joti POLIZOAKIS GER 56.41 28.41 28.00 6.93 6.75 7.14 7.07 7.11 0.00 3
9 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV POL 55.92 28.17 28.75 7.11 7.14 7.07 7.32 7.29 1.00 6 fall
10 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR 54.74 26.75 27.99 6.93 6.89 7.00 7.18 7.00 0.00 4

START ORDER FREE DANCE Sat Oct 28 1:15 pm local time / 3:15 EDT

1 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR
2 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV POL
3 Alla LOBODA / Pavel DROZD RUS
4 Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN
5 Kavita LORENZ / Joti POLIZOAKIS GER

6 Olivia SMART / Adria DIAZ ESP
7 Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER USA
8 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN
9 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN
10 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA

Tech Team and Judges same as for SP

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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby chuckiem » Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:50 am

RESULTS MEN SHORT PROGRAM

1 Shoma UNO JPN 103.62 57.12 46.50 9.29 9.14 9.46 9.32 9.29 0.00 12 4f, 4t+2t, 3a
2 Patrick CHAN CAN 94.43 48.01 46.42 9.39 9.18 9.14 9.32 9.39 0.00 11 4t+3t, 3z, 3a-hd
3 Jason BROWN USA 90.71 45.64 45.07 8.79 8.96 9.11 9.00 9.21 0.00 10 3a-to, 3z, 3f+3t
4 Alexander SAMARIN RUS 84.02 46.40 37.62 7.79 7.18 7.61 7.50 7.54 0.00 9 4z+3t, 4t, 3a<
5 Keegan MESSING CAN 82.17 45.75 37.42 7.68 7.32 7.39 7.46 7.57 1.00 1 4t+3t, 3a, random ↓, 3z
6 Jorik HENDRICKX BEL 82.08 41.89 40.19 7.93 7.82 8.04 8.11 8.29 0.00 8 3a, 3z+3t<, 3lo
7 Michal BREZINA CZE 80.34 42.09 38.25 7.79 7.25 7.68 7.71 7.82 0.00 7 4s+2t, 3a, 3z
8 Takahito MURA JPN 74.82 38.35 36.47 7.54 7.04 7.25 7.32 7.32 0.00 6 4t<, 3a, 3z+3t
9 Nicolas NADEAU CAN 74.23 38.48 36.75 7.39 7.11 7.36 7.46 7.43 1.00 2 4t<↓, 3a, 3lo+3t
10 Paul FENTZ GER 68.48 34.91 34.57 7.00 6.82 6.75 7.07 6.93 1.00 3 4t<↓, 3a, 3z+3t, 0 CSSp
11 Jun Hwan CHA KOR 68.46 31.78 36.68 7.43 7.18 7.39 7.36 7.32 0.00 4 4s<<, 3z!+3t<, 3a<
12 Brendan KERRY AUS 63.19 31.20 33.99 6.96 6.71 6.57 6.93 6.82 2.00 5 2t+3t, 4s<↓, 3a<-so, time

START ORDER MEN FREE SKATE Sat Oct 28 4:50 pm local time / 6:50 pm EDT

1 Brendan KERRY AUS
2 Paul FENTZ GER
3 Jun Hwan CHA KOR
4 Nicolas NADEAU CAN
5 Michal BREZINA CZE
6 Takahito MURA JPN

7 Jorik HENDRICKX BEL
8 Alexander SAMARIN RUS
9 Keegan MESSING CAN
10 Shoma UNO JPN
11 Patrick CHAN CAN
12 Jason BROWN USA

Same Tech Team and Judges as for SP

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RESULTS PAIRS SHORT PROGRAM

1 Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT GER 77.34 40.74 36.60 9.04 9.04 9.14 9.21 9.32 0.00 7
2 Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD CAN 73.53 37.44 36.09 8.96 8.96 9.00 9.07 9.11 0.00 8
3 Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES FRA 73.04 38.55 34.49 8.46 8.50 8.79 8.61 8.75 0.00 6
4 Natalia ZABIJAKO / Alexander ENBERT RUS 69.00 37.59 31.41 7.93 7.64 7.89 7.93 7.89 0.00 4
5 Liubov ILYUSHECHKINA / Dylan MOSCOVITCH CAN 64.06 32.41 31.65 7.89 7.79 7.89 8.04 7.96 0.00 5
6 Haven DENNEY / Brandon FRAZIER USA 63.26 33.55 29.71 7.39 7.29 7.54 7.43 7.50 0.00 3
7 Cheng PENG / Yang JIN CHN 61.58 31.81 29.77 7.43 7.36 7.39 7.54 7.50 0.00 2
8 Sydney KOLODZIEJ / Maxime DESCHAMPS CAN 59.06 32.73 26.33 6.64 6.43 6.68 6.68 6.50 0.00 1

START ORDER PAIRS FREE SKATE Sat Oct 28 7:05 pm local time / 9:05 pm EDT

1 Cheng PENG / Yang JIN CHN
2 Sydney KOLODZIEJ / Maxime DESCHAMPS CAN
3 Liubov ILYUSHECHKINA / Dylan MOSCOVITCH CAN
4 Haven DENNEY / Brandon FRAZIER USA

5 Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES FRA
6 Natalia ZABIJAKO / Alexander ENBERT RUS
7 Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT GER
8 Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD CAN

Same Tech Team and Judges as for SP

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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby Jonas » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:22 am

Interesting start thusfar!

MEN:
Aside from the brainfart fall, Keegan Messing was an absolute delight. Quad-triple was Just! He's my sentimental favorite to win CAN's second Olympic berth.

Michal Brezina FINALLY nailed that 4Sal after a couple years' absence. Well done.

Alexander Samarin is the third RUS man to attempt, but first to land a quad Lutz during this Grand Prix series. However, he doesn't have anywhere near the polish of his countryman Kolyada.

What I find most intriguing is that quadless Jason Brown is less than 4 points shy of Patrick Chan -- and mind you Jason wasn't even perfect here himself.

PAIRS:
Had Meagan Duhamel NOT doubled that sbs Lutz, she & Radford probably would've been close to tied w/Savchenko & Massot.

Speaking of Bruno Massot -- is it true he hasn't gotten his German citizenship yet?!?! :shock:

I actually would've had James & Cipres in 2nd here. Great to see them carry their momentum from earlier this year to this Olympic season. If they can manage to beat Duhamel & Radford again, I'd say FRA has a bona fide medal contender in Pyeongchang.

With the top 3 so close, it's gonna be a great finale!

LADIES:
Actually watched this just now even though it was the 1st event.

This was by far Courtney Hicks's best SP in a senior international event and she very shockingly, but very deservedly came out as the top American here. Save on the combo aside, Courtney looked so controlled out there. Rohene Ward did a commendable job w/this program. I'm hoping she can keep it together for the FS.

The two US Champs who skated later were just hot messes out there. Karen Chen continues to be unreliable. Ashley Wagner's attempt to be the entertainer just couldn't hide the very visible technical flaws here. I remember very well when she debuted this SP at Skate Canada '15. In that debut, I said that she needed to put a little more stank in the performance, but the technical elements were about as strong as they've ever been for her at that point. Wagner hasn't broken 70 points in the SP since Boston '16.

Marin Honda looked nervous and anxious throughout, while Rika Hongo looked really hungry. Small victory for Rika over Marin here, though I'd say Higuchi and Kaori Sakamoto had much stronger SPs last week.

Laurine LeCavalier seems to have really benefitted from her move to Kori Ade. She looks much more controlled out there.

Anna Pogorilaya continues to be my favorite among the Russian ladies. Good to see her perform well here after the reported injury over the summer.

Saved the best for last: Kaetlyn smoked the rest of the field here. Her real competition was Medvedeva from Rostelecom last week! I'd say they're about even in the SP!

Your thoughts...
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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby chuckiem » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:26 pm

RESULTS LADIES FREE SKATE

1 Kaetlyn OSMOND CAN 136.85 65.95 71.90 8.96 8.82 8.86 9.11 9.18 1.00 11 3f+3t-fo, 2a+3t, 3z, 3lo, 2f, 3s+2t+2lo, 2a↓
2 Maria SOTSKOVA RUS 126.42 61.34 65.08 7.96 7.89 8.29 8.25 8.29 0.00 10 3z<+3t, 3f, 3lo, 3f<+1lo+3s, 3z, 2a+2t, 2a<
3 Karen CHEN JPN 125.64 64.73 60.91 7.64 7.18 7.89 7.50 7.86 0.00 1 3z, 3f+3t, 2a+3t<, 3f<, 3s+2t+2lo, 3lo, 2a
4 Marin HONDA USA 122.37 54.87 67.50 8.21 8.11 8.61 8.46 8.79 0.00 6 2a, 3f+3t<, 2a+2t, 3lo<, 3f, 3lo+2t<, 3ze
5 Courtney HICKS USA 118.51 57.78 60.73 7.64 7.32 7.57 7.61 7.82 0.00 9 3f+3lo-so, 2a<, 2a+2t, 2z+lo<+3s<, 3z, 3t, 3f
6 Rika HONGO JPN 114.74 53.20 61.54 7.71 7.39 7.86 7.71 7.79 0.00 8 3f+3t<, 3s, 3z!<, 2a+3t<+2t, 3lo<, 3f<+2t, 2a
7 Ashley WAGNER USA 108.63 46.64 61.99 7.82 7.46 7.75 7.71 8.00 0.00 7 3z+2t, 3fe<, 2a+1lo+3s<, 3z, 2lo, 2a, 3s<<
8 Laurine LECAVELIER FRA 107.35 53.25 54.10 6.96 6.36 6.96 6.64 6.89 0.00 5 3z+3t, 3f, 3s, 2a+2t, 2a, 3z-so, 3lo<
9 Kailani CRAINE AUS 88.07 37.37 50.70 6.36 5.93 6.54 6.32 6.54 0.00 4 3z<+2t, 3f<, 3z<, 3lo<<, 3lo<+1t, 2a+2t, 2a<
10 Anna POGORILAYA RUS 87.84 35.86 54.98 7.29 7.00 6.21 7.00 6.86 3.00 12 3z+3t<, 2a, 3lo+1lo<<+3s<<↓, 2z, 1f!, 2lo+2t<, 2a<<↓, 0 Csp, time
11 Alaine CHARTRAND CAN 87.66 36.77 52.89 6.82 6.46 6.39 6.75 6.64 2.00 2 3z<↓, 3fe<, 2a+1lo+3s<, 3z<+rep, 3lo<↓, 3s+2t-hop, 2a+2lo, nc two final spins
12 Larkyn AUSTMAN CAN 81.77 35.45 47.32 6.18 5.64 5.68 6.04 6.04 1.00 3 1f, 2a+3t, 2z!, 2t, 3s+2t+1lo, 2a<<↓, 3s<


FINAL STANDINGS: LADIES

1 - Kaetlyn OSMOND CAN 212.91 1 1
2 - Maria SOTSKOVA RUS 192.52 3 2
3 - Ashley WAGNER USA 183.94 7 4
4 - Courtney HICKS USA 182.57 4 5
5 - Marin HONDA JPN 178.24 10 3
6 - Rika HONGO JPN 176.34 6 6
7 - Karen CHEN USA 170.40 5 7
8 - Laurine LECAVELIER FRA 166.43 8 8
9 - Anna POGORILAYA RUS 156.89 2 10
10 - Kailani CRAINE AUS 143.03 9 9
11 - Alaine CHARTRAND CAN 134.17 11 11
12 - Larkyn AUSTMAN CAN 123.56 12 12

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RESULTS FREE DANCE

1 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN 117.18 58.48 58.70 9.61 9.57 9.89 9.89 9.96 0.00 8
2 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 113.35 57.47 55.88 9.11 9.14 9.50 9.32 9.50 0.00 10
3 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN 112.54 57.90 55.64 9.04 9.11 9.39 9.39 9.43 1.00 9 long lift
4 Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER USA 102.10 53.05 49.05 8.04 7.86 8.43 8.18 8.36 0.00 7
5 Alla LOBODA / Pavel DROZD RUS 93.12 46.98 46.14 7.68 7.50 7.79 7.68 7.79 0.00 3
6 Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN 92.50 46.66 45.84 7.50 7.39 7.71 7.71 7.89 0.00 4
7 Olivia SMART / Adria DIAZ ESP 90.47 43.97 46.50 7.54 7.46 7.89 7.86 8.00 0.00 6
8 Kavita LORENZ / Joti POLIZOAKIS GER 89.67 45.68 43.99 7.18 7.00 7.50 7.43 7.54 0.00 5
9 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV POL 88.86 44.64 44.22 7.21 7.21 7.43 7.46 7.54 0.00 2
10 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR 86.09 43.61 42.48 6.93 6.96 7.18 7.18 7.14 0.00 1

FINAL STANDINGS ICE DANCE

1 - Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN 199.86 1 1
2 - Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN 190.01 2 3
3 - Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 189.43 3 2
4 - Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER USA 165.20 5 4
5 - Alla LOBODA / Pavel DROZD RUS 155.72 6 5
6 - Olivia SMART / Adria DIAZ ESP 154.81 4 7
7 - Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN 150.27 7 6
8 - Kavita LORENZ / Joti POLIZOAKIS GER 146.08 8 8
9 - Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV POL 144.78 9 9
10 - Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR 140.83 10 10

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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby Maleeva » Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:47 pm

Lord what on earth happened to Pogo and Chartrand???
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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby Maleeva » Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:38 pm

Wow what a fierce battle for silver between Weaver/Poje and and Hubbell/Donohue!

Even though they took bronze, H&D will sure be pleased to get personal best scores in the free dance and overall score, by a whopping 5 and 9 points respectively!
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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby chuckiem » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:13 am

RESULTS MEN FREE SKATE

1 Shoma UNO JPN 197.48 106.32 91.16 9.29 8.89 9.04 9.11 9.25 0.00 10 4lo, 3lo, 3a, 4f, 4t<, 4t+2t, 3a+1lo+3f, 3s+3t
2 Jason BROWN USA 170.43 80.77 90.66 8.86 9.04 9.04 9.07 9.32 1.00 12 4t<↓, 3a<, 3f, 3a+3t, 3z!+1lo+3s, 1lo, 3z+2t, 2a
3 Alexander SAMARIN RUS 166.04 87.68 78.36 8.04 7.54 8.14 7.71 7.75 0.00 8 4z, 45, 3a, 3z+3t, 3a<+2t, 3z, 3lo, 2a
4 Michal BREZINA CZE 156.70 79.62 77.08 7.79 7.43 7.75 7.64 7.93 0.00 5 4s, 3a+2t, 3f+2t, 3a, 3lo, 3f+2t*+2lo, 3z, 3s
5 Jorik HENDRICKX BEL 155.23 75.23 80.00 8.00 7.79 8.04 7.96 8.21 0.00 7 3a+2t, 3a, 3s, 2z+3t, 3z, 3f, 3lo+2t, 2a
6 Nicolas NADEAU CAN 155.20 77.56 77.64 7.75 7.46 8.04 7.68 7.89 0.00 4 4t+3t, 3lo, 4t, 3a, 1a+2t, 3f, 3s, 2a^2a
7 Patrick CHAN CAN 151.27 61.41 90.86 9.25 9.18 8.71 9.11 9.18 1.00 11 4t↓, 3z-hd, 2a+1lo+2s, 3t, 2a, 2lo, 3z-hd+rep, 3f
8 Jun Hwan CHA KOR 141.86 72.14 70.72 7.21 6.86 7.18 7.04 7.07 1.00 3 4t<, 4s<↓, 3a+1lo+3s<<, 3a, 3f+3t<, 3z, 3f, 3lo
9 Brendan KERRY AUS 138.37 71.23 67.14 7.04 6.39 6.75 6.68 6.71 0.00 1 4t+3t, 4s, 2f!, 45, 3a, 1a, 2z+1lo+2s, 2lo
10 Keegan MESSING CAN 135.58 59.16 78.42 7.79 7.68 7.57 7.96 8.21 2.00 9 4z<<↓, 4t<<↓, 3a+2t+2lo, 4t<<+rep, 3z+3t, 1a, 3lo, 3fe
11 Paul FENTZ GER 133.12 65.54 68.58 7.04 6.64 6.89 6.86 6.86 1.00 2 3a, 4t<, 3lo, 3z, 3a+2t, 3s+2t, 3z↓+rep, 2a
12 Takahito MURA JPN 111.84 40.14 71.70 7.46 7.07 6.86 7.25 7.21 0.00 6 3a, 2t, 2lo, 3z<<↓, 3a+rep, 3z+rep, 2fe, 3z*



FINAL STANDINGS: MEN

1 - Shoma UNO JPN 301.10 1 1
2 - Jason BROWN USA 261.14 3 2
3 - Alexander SAMARIN RUS 250.06 4 3
4 - Patrick CHAN CAN 245.70 2 7
5 - Jorik HENDRICKX BEL 237.31 6 5
6 - Michal BREZINA CZE 237.04 7 4
7 - Nicolas NADEAU CAN 229.43 9 6
8 - Keegan MESSING CAN 217.75 5 10
9 - Jun Hwan CHA KOR 210.32 11 8
10 - Paul FENTZ GER 201.60 10 11
11 - Brendan KERRY AUS 201.56 12 9
12 - Takahito MURA JPN 186.66 8 12

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RESULTS PAIRS FREESKATE

1 Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD CAN 148.69 75.84 72.85 9.07 8.93 9.21 9.18 9.14 0.00 7
2 Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES FRA 141.33 70.70 70.63 8.71 8.68 8.93 8.89 8.93 0.00 5
3 Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT GER 138.32 65.23 73.09 9.11 9.18 8.89 9.29 9.21 0.00 8
4 Natalia ZABIJAKO / Alexander ENBERT RUS 123.70 60.68 63.02 7.89 7.75 7.89 7.93 7.93 0.00 6
5 Cheng PENG / Yang JIN CHN 120.92 61.86 59.06 7.39 7.21 7.46 7.46 7.39 0.00 1
6 Liubov ILYUSHECHKINA / Dylan MOSCOVITCH CAN 112.29 54.31 58.98 7.36 7.32 7.18 7.46 7.54 1.00 3
7 Haven DENNEY / Brandon FRAZIER USA 109.69 52.13 58.56 7.36 7.21 7.39 7.32 7.32 1.00 4
8 Sydney KOLODZIEJ / Maxime DESCHAMPS CAN 104.97 53.50 52.47 6.68 6.43 6.50 6.68 6.50 1.00 2

FINAL STANDINGS: PAIRS

1 - Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD CAN 222.22 2 1
2 - Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT GER 215.66 1 3
3 - Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES FRA 214.37 3 2
4 - Natalia ZABIJAKO / Alexander ENBERT RUS 192.70 4 4
5 - Cheng PENG / Yang JIN CHN 182.50 7 5
6 - Liubov ILYUSHECHKINA / Dylan MOSCOVITCH CAN 176.35 5 6
7 - Haven DENNEY / Brandon FRAZIER USA 172.95 6 7
8 - Sydney KOLODZIEJ / Maxime DESCHAMPS CAN 164.03 8 8
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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby Jonas » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:35 am

Interesting how the ladies event turned out!

Marin Honda kicked it off with a whistle clean performance complete with poise and charm. The two carrots she got were harsh, IMO. I woulda had that in the low 130s -- and looking back hers, to me, was the free skate of the evening.

Ashley Wagner, in comparison, looked cautious and unsure. By now this program should fit like a glove. Her bronze medal here was simply a stroke of luck in the sense that others who followed her either received more carrots (Hongo, Chen) or just imploded (Pogo), and not because Wagner skated w/war paint on as she has in the past.

Karen Chen was smart to scrap the "Carmen" FS. This new one suits her very well. Chen's basics are stronger than Wagner's, but Chen lost A LOT of points on the jumps here and is just as prone to carrots as Wagner is.

Had Courtney Hicks nailed one of her triple-triples she would've beaten Ashley in the FS and stole the bronze medal here, which would've been huge for her. Unlike the likely candidates for the US Olympic Team, Hicks doesn't have the luxury of another Grand Prix. Nonetheless, it was good for her to beat Karen Chen decisively here. This program really works for her, so I'm hoping she can clean the rest of it up before San Jose.

Anna Pogorilaya has had some epic meltdowns before, but in those instances she was fighting. Here, she was clearly still feeling the effects of her back injury.

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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby Jonas » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:44 am

WOW, that pairs FS was pretty epic.

James & Cipres opened the second group with a killer performance. I dunno what button John Zimmerman and Silvia Fontana hit, but everything is just clicking with this team -- and what perfect timing too!

Duhamel & Radford responded in kind with a performance that reminded everyone why they're two-time World Champs -- attack, attack, attack. Throw 4Salchow -- boom! IIRC, this FS was recycled from '14-'15, but it works so...

When Savchenko opened up the throw Axel to a double, I knew the Canadians had the title. With Massot popping both sbs triple attempts, I hoped that the judges would dock them enough to fall behind the French overall.

It's not even Halloween yet, but all three of these teams put out some scary good performances this week! All Olympic medal worthy!

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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby bumphystars » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:59 pm

My overall thoughts on SC:

Ladies: I am glad to see that the judges are getting tough on edge calls, not just with one or two skaters, but with all of the skaters. It has been a problem for a long time and, in my opinion, it's enabled by the fact that we are putting so much pressure on young, undeveloped girls to turn all of these rotations. They do, and then their bodies grow, as bodies do, and they can't turn the jumps anymore. It's no accident that, with only a few exceptions, skaters who rarely or never struggle with this are older (Osmond, for one). We have seen so many young skaters burn out early and I believe this is why. Perhaps the attention to this in the scores will help correct this problem.

I felt just horrible for Anna P, who is clearly not competition ready. It's reminding me a bit of what happened to Gracie and I hope this isn't another horrible worlds experience that she can't put behind her. I hear she is still struggling with back issues which must be so frustrating. Here's hoping she gets the help she needs to get better and back in form so that she can look back on her Olympic season with pride. Not a huge fan of her skating but a huge fan of her tenacity...here's a chance to use it.

I know there were many rumblings about Osmond being overscored in the short which quite simply confuse me. She was far and away better than the competition here, with more complex programs and better jumps. Her short is the best in the world, IMO, performed with speed and attack. Now all she needs is to develop her consistency in the long and she has a shot at Gold.

Not a lot else moved me, apart from Marin Honda who is just LOVELY and was underscored in the long for sure.

DANCE: I would have had H/D in second. They are by far my favourite of the American teams and I even prefer them to P/C. Such power, deep edges, and sophisticated styling.

I'm happy to see W/P gain momentum here and the choice to go back to Je Suis Malade really paid off. But they are still a bit tentative to me; I hope that improves with more mileage on both their programs.

What more to say about V/M? I wasn't really on board with MR when I first heard they were doing it but it's clear they are the right team to interpret this music in a fresh way. They are just such. good. skaters. Truly in a class by themselves at this point. Will be interesting to see how the French scores stack up after this coming weekend but I don't see them catching V/M, in the short at least. Let's see—the judges and I don't always agree. haha
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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby chuckiem » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:05 pm

bumphystars wrote:My overall thoughts on SC:

Ladies: I am glad to see that the judges are getting tough on edge calls, not just with one or two skaters, but with all of the skaters. It has been a problem for a long time and, in my opinion, it's enabled by the fact that we are putting so much pressure on young, undeveloped girls to turn all of these rotations. They do, and then their bodies grow, as bodies do, and they can't turn the jumps anymore. It's no accident that, with only a few exceptions, skaters who rarely or never struggle with this are older (Osmond, for one). We have seen so many young skaters burn out early and I believe this is why. Perhaps the attention to this in the scores will help correct this problem.


It isn't the judges who are getting tough on edge calls, it's the tech team. And edge calls have nothing to do with rotation---I think you mean URs, no? Kaetlyn may not be known for URs (tho she did rack up quite a few at CoC last year), but she has been dinged internationally for her (f)lutz, although never in Canada.

IMO the ladies tech teams got a bit carried away with the carrots. While it was easy to see the URs in Wagner's, Craine's, and Chartrand's freeskates, the multiple URs for Sotskova and Honda were headscratchers. The only skater other than Kaetlyn who didn't get multiple URs was Lecavelier, who got just one on her final 2a (hmmm-the TS was French....). Larkyn Austman got only 2 URs, although to my eyes, very few of her jumps were all the way around. And looking at the video of Kaetlyn's FS at icenetwork, Kaetlyn should have gotten a UR on her 2a, as she never got all the way around on that jump before falling. It's all very well and good to be tough on URs, but that toughness has to be applied evenly to all skaters.
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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby bumphystars » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:03 pm

Oops, yes, chuckie, I obviously meant the tech team, not the judges and carrots not edge calls(my bad!), but I think my overall point was clear:

Kaetlyn has the strongest technique and rotates her jumps more consistently than any of the other women who were at this competition, and I believe that is because she was allowed to develop her skating in time, not pushed into big triples pre-puberty.

(Though, judges aside, I dare say YOU might be harder on her and every other Canadian, regardless of where the competition is held).
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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby chuckiem » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:49 am

Tuktamysheva was pushed to get triples in her prepubescent days, and she rarely if ever gets URs. Her problem is popping or falling on jumps.
But she was trained by Mishin, not Eteri.

I don't think it is when a skater was trained to do the more complex jumps, but how the skater was trained.
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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby bumphystars » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:40 pm

I would submit that Tuktamysheva is an exception. Lipnitskaia is more the rule.
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Re: GP #2 SKATE CANADA INTL 2017 10/27-28 Regina SAS

Postby Maleeva » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:39 pm

NBC just showed this today in the US. Tara Lapinski made me laugh out loud when she declared Ashley Wagner was the fav to win this event over Katlyn Osmond. She left Terry and Johnny speechless LOL.

NBC had plenty of time to edit out such an "out there" comment!!!
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