2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:35 pm

LADIES SHORT PROGRAM RESULTS

1 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS 78.92 42.00 36.92 9.14 9.07 9.36 9.21 9.36 0.00 33 3f+3t, 3lo, 2a
2 Anna POGORILAYA RUS 74.39 39.90 34.49 8.61 8.43 8.79 8.54 8.75 0.00 30 3z+3t, 3lo, 2a
3 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 72.40 36.80 35.60 8.89 8.61 8.96 8.93 9.11 0.00 7 3t+3t, 3lo, 2a
4 Maria SOTSKOVA RUS 72.17 39.66 32.51 8.25 8.00 8.21 8.04 8.14 0.00 31 3z+3t, 3f, 2a
5 Laurine LECAVELIER FRA 63.81 35.63 28.18 7.11 6.82 7.18 7.00 7.11 0.00 23 3z+3t, 3lo, 2a
6 Ivett TOTH HUN 61.49 34.49 27.00 6.79 6.46 6.93 6.79 6.79 0.00 25 3t+3t, 3z, 2a
7 Nicole RAJICOVA SVK 60.98 33.51 28.47 7.18 6.89 7.21 7.14 7.18 1.00 32 3z+2lo, 3lo, 2a, time
8 Roberta RODEGHIERO ITA 57.77 30.68 27.09 6.79 6.54 6.86 6.79 6.89 0.00 29 3t+3t, 3f, 2a
9 Nicole SCHOTT GER 56.88 31.46 25.42 6.43 6.04 6.39 6.43 6.50 0.00 21 3lo, 3t+3t, 2a
10 Anastasia GALUSTYAN ARM 56.40 31.14 26.26 6.68 6.29 6.64 6.61 6.61 1.00 26 3z+3t<, 3f, 2a, time
11 Loena HENDRICKX BEL 55.41 30.18 25.23 6.36 6.04 6.43 6.25 6.46 0.00 13 3z!+2t, 3f, 2a
12 Mae Berenice MEITE FRA 54.96 30.11 24.85 6.29 5.96 6.46 6.14 6.21 0.00 28 3lo+3t, 3z, 2a
13 Joshi HELGESSON SWE 53.93 26.89 27.04 6.86 6.46 6.82 6.79 6.86 0.00 24 3z<, 3t+2t, 2a
14 Emmi PELTONEN FIN 53.52 27.84 25.68 6.57 6.18 6.46 6.43 6.46 0.00 12 3t+2t, 3lo, 2a
15 Michaela-Lucie HANZLIKOVA CZE 52.39 30.48 21.91 5.61 5.18 5.68 5.43 5.50 0.00 18 3s+3t, 3lo, 2a
16 Helery HÄLVIN EST 51.72 28.65 23.07 5.86 5.54 5.82 5.79 5.82 0.00 9 3z+2t, 3f, 2a
17 Kerstin FRANK AUT 51.47 29.04 22.43 5.89 5.21 5.79 5.57 5.57 0.00 19 3t+2t, 3s, 2a
18 Matilda ALGOTSSON SWE 51.35 28.14 23.21 5.96 5.54 5.86 5.82 5.82 0.00 22 3z!, 3lo+2t, 2a
19 Viveca LINDFORS FIN 49.48 28.16 22.32 5.86 5.39 5.61 5.46 5.57 1.00 20 3z+3t, 3f!<↓, 2a
20 Angelina KUCHVALSKA LAT 49.05 24.76 26.29 6.82 6.43 6.46 6.61 6.54 2.00 34 3t↓, 3f+2t↓, 2a
21 Anna KHNYCHENKOVA UKR 48.93 29.34 20.59 5.39 4.89 5.21 5.18 5.07 1.00 17 2a, 3f↓, 3z+3t
22 Nathalie WEINZIERL GER 48.70 23.51 25.19 6.36 6.14 6.21 6.39 6.39 0.00 27 3z+3t<, 2lo*, 2a
23 Anne Line GJERSEM NOR 48.06 26.20 21.86 5.50 5.25 5.54 5.46 5.57 0.00 10 3s+2t, 3lo, 2a
24 Natasha McKAY GBR 45.97 24.77 21.20 5.21 5.00 5.50 5.25 5.54 0.00 6 3lo+3t, 3s<, 2a

FINAL NOT REACHED:

25 Julia SAUTER ROU 45.59 25.22 20.37 5.21 4.86 5.18 5.04 5.18 0.00 14 3t+2t, 3s, 2a
26 Dasa GRM SLO 43.48 22.28 22.20 5.61 5.32 5.64 5.50 5.68 1.00 8 3ze, 3f↓-nc, 2a
27 Yasmine Kimiko YAMADA SUI 42.33 22.88 20.45 5.21 4.93 5.07 5.21 5.14 1.00 15 3t+3t<↓, 3lo, 2a
28 Elzbieta KROPA LTU 41.52 24.80 18.72 5.00 4.57 4.50 4.86 4.46 2.00 3 3t+3t, 3f↓, ↓fw
29 Antonina DUBININA SRB 41.05 23.04 18.01 4.86 4.21 4.50 4.57 4.36 0.00 11 3s<+3t<, 3f<, 2a
30 Colette Coco KAMINSKI POL 39.83 21.62 18.21 4.61 4.54 4.61 4.57 4.43 0.00 1 3t+2t, 3s, 2a
31 Aimee BUCHANAN ISR 38.49 21.72 18.77 4.86 4.39 4.75 4.71 4.75 2.00 5 3f<↓, 3t+2t, 2a<<↓
32 Birce ATABEY TUR 35.59 18.41 17.18 4.36 4.21 4.32 4.32 4.25 0.00 2 3z<+2t, 3s, 1a*
33 Valentina MATOS ESP 34.79 18.08 17.71 4.57 4.25 4.39 4.54 4.39 1.00 16 3t↓, 3z-nc, 2a
34 Hristina VASSILEVA BUL 24.55 8.75 15.80 4.18 3.79 3.86 4.04 3.89 0.00 4 1a*, 1f*, 2t+2t*

Top four pretty much as expected. Kostner skated seventh, but her PCS didn't take a hit.
Scores weren't as inflated as they usually are at Euros.


PAIRS SHORT PROGRAM RESULTS
A few surprises here!


1 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV RUS 80.82 44.50 36.32 9.00 8.93 9.25 9.11 9.11 0.00 17
2 Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES FRA 74.18 41.42 32.76 8.14 7.96 8.39 8.25 8.21 0.00 18
3 Aljona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT GER 73.76 38.67 36.09 9.00 8.86 9.00 9.07 9.18 1.00 15
4 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV RUS 73.70 39.47 36.23 9.14 8.86 9.00 9.18 9.11 2.00 10
5 Natalia ZABIJAKO / Alexander ENBERT RUS 72.38 40.36 32.02 8.07 7.75 8.14 7.93 8.14 0.00 11
6 Valentina MARCHEI / Ondrej HOTAREK ITA 66.53 36.01 30.52 7.54 7.36 7.82 7.64 7.79 0.00 14
7 Anna DUSKOVA / Martin BIDAR CZE 65.90 38.31 28.59 7.29 6.89 7.18 7.21 7.18 1.00 16
8 Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE ITA 63.97 34.63 30.34 7.61 7.39 7.54 7.75 7.64 1.00 13
9 Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT 57.14 32.29 25.85 6.57 6.39 6.39 6.46 6.50 1.00 12
10 Tatiana DANILOVA / Mikalai KAMIANCHUK BLR 53.27 31.50 21.77 5.54 5.14 5.61 5.54 5.39 0.00 2
11 Lola ESBRAT / Andrei NOVOSELOV FRA 52.51 28.97 23.54 6.00 5.75 5.82 5.93 5.93 0.00 7
12 Zoe JONES / Christopher BOYADJI GBR 52.32 29.72 22.60 5.68 5.36 5.71 5.68 5.82 0.00 9
13 Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nolan SEEGERT GER 51.27 28.53 22.74 5.79 5.50 5.82 5.68 5.64 0.00 6
14 Rebecca GHILARDI / Filippo AMBROSINI ITA 50.71 28.10 22.61 5.75 5.32 5.82 5.61 5.75 0.00 3
15 Lana PETRANOVIC / Antonio SOUZA-KORDEIRU CRO 49.25 28.91 21.34 5.46 5.07 5.32 5.43 5.39 1.00 1
16 Arina CHERNIAVSKAIA / Evgeni KRASNAPOLSKI ISR 47.92 27.55 21.37 5.46 5.07 5.36 5.39 5.43 1.00 8

FINAL NOT REACHED:

17 Ioulia CHTCHETININA / Noah SCHERER SUI 47.52 27.13 20.39 5.04 4.89 5.14 5.21 5.21 0.00 4
18 Goda BUTKUTE / Nikita ERMOLAEV LTU 44.79 24.96 21.83 5.64 5.21 5.32 5.57 5.54 2.00 5
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Barcelona » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:58 pm

That was quite some pairs' short! T/M were absolutely fantastic, flawless execution of some huge elements and great presentation. J/C had a skate of their lives and a well deserved second place with great technical content and an interesting and well presented theme. S/M were otherwise excellent but she fell on their step sequence which cost them the second place. S/K were good too, a little bit the same story as S/M with a fall on the throw jump. Their short this season is to Clair de Lune so it's much more lyrical than last season. Quite refreshing to see them doing that style but it obviously wasn't quite as much of a crowd-pleasing show as the top three skates.

Z/E were solid and probably deserved their 5th place but I was more entertained by M/H who also seemed to step up their game from anything I've seen from them before. The ones to watch in the future are the young Czechs now in 7th place. Very mature presentation with some lovely balletic touches and a technically solid skate. I got the feeling I was watching future European champions. :)
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Jonas » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:16 pm

I agree that James & Cipres had the short program of the evening!! Innovative style and very well executed elements!! Personally I would've had them further ahead of Savchenko & Massot, Stolbova & Klimov, and Zabijako & Enbert.

Duskova & Bidar were the other revelation to me!! WOW!! They looked sluggish en route to their silver medal at the Jr. Grand Prix Final just last month. Here they looked polished and confident!Side by side jumps and throws were solid and the unison was pretty darn good! They didn't look very junior to me! Had it not been for that clumsy trip from him, they'd probably be ahead of Marchei & Hotarek, who I personally find very entertaining to watch.

Should be an exciting FS.

No real surprises in the ladies in terms of skating and placement. The Russian trio threw it down like any old day at the office. The only real suspenseful thing to watch for is whether Carolina Kostner can hold off Maria Sotskova for the bronze. Kostner has always been a judges' favorite, but Sotskova has an ambitious technical offering that I don't think Kostner can match anymore.

Kudos to Laurine Lecavelier of FRA and Ivett Toth of HUN for throwing down their own solid short programs!

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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:15 pm

SHORT DANCE RESULTS Big surprises here

1 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 76.65 40.22 36.43 9.04 8.96 9.25 9.04 9.25 0.00 29
2 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitry SOLOVIEV RUS 76.18 39.32 36.86 9.18 9.00 9.29 9.32 9.29 0.00 30
3 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 75.48 38.06 37.42 9.39 9.18 9.39 9.36 9.46 0.00 26
4 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA 70.46 36.35 34.11 8.50 8.36 8.64 8.50 8.64 0.00 28
5 Isabella TOBIAS / Ilia TKACHENKO ISR 69.35 36.58 32.77 8.21 8.04 8.29 8.21 8.21 0.00 23
6 Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN RUS 68.17 33.72 34.45 8.57 8.39 8.75 8.68 8.68 0.00 27
7 Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SORENSEN DEN 66.02 36.19 29.83 7.43 7.32 7.61 7.43 7.50 0.00 24
8 Viktoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV RUS 64.67 31.81 33.86 8.43 8.29 8.54 8.46 8.61 1.00 16
9 Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR 63.36 33.65 29.71 7.39 7.25 7.50 7.57 7.43 0.00 21
10 Natalisa KALISZEK / Maksim SPODIREV POL 63.35 32.90 30.45 7.50 7.43 7.68 7.71 7.75 0.00 25
11 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR 62.33 33.18 29.15 7.29 7.07 7.39 7.32 7.36 0.00 22
12 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC FRA 61.48 33.06 28.42 7.14 6.96 7.14 7.11 7.18 0.00 19
13 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 56.52 30.30 27.22 6.89 6.57 6.89 6.79 6.89 1.00 2
14 Cecilia TÖRN / Jussiville PARTANEN FIN 54.99 28.85 27.14 6.71 6.54 6.93 6.89 6.86 1.00 20
15 Kavita LORENZ / Joti POLIZOAKIS GER 54.63 26.59 28.04 7.00 6.86 7.07 7.07 7.04 0.00 18
16 Tina GARABEDIAN / Simon PROULX-SENECAL ARM 53.00 27.66 25.34 6.32 6.11 6.43 6.39 6.43 0.00 10
17 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Lukas CSOLLEY SVK 52.84 26.10 26.74 6.75 6.50 6.71 6.82 6.64 0.00 12
18 Viktoria KAVALIOVA / Yurii BIELIAIEV BLR 52.39 26.88 25.51 6.46 6.21 6.43 6.46 6.32 0.00 17
19 Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON GBR 50.75 26.06 24.69 6.14 6.11 6.21 6.29 6.11 0.00 4
20 Taylor TRAN / Saulius AMBRULEVICIUS LTU 49.87 26.58 23.29 5.82 5.64 5.93 5.86 5.86 0.00 15

FINAL NOT REACHED:

21 Robynne TWEEDALE / Joseph BUCKLAND GBR 49.55 25.98 23.57 6.04 5.71 5.89 6.00 5.82 0.00 1
22 Jasmine TESSARI / Francesco FIORETTI ITA 49.44 26.07 23.37 5.82 5.54 5.96 5.89 6.00 0.00 5
23 Olga JAKUSHINA / Andrey NEVSKIY LAT 49.14 25.06 24.08 6.11 5.89 6.14 6.00 5.96 0.00 6
24 Vavara OGLOBLINA / Mikhail ZHIRNOV AZE 48.45 25.07 23.38 5.86 5.61 6.00 5.86 5.89 0.00 14
25 Victoria MANNI / Carlo ROTHLISBERGER SUI 47.19 23.92 23.27 5.79 5.57 6.00 5.86 5.86 0.00 13
26 Nicole KUZMICHOVA / Alexandr SINICYN CZE 47.16 23.07 24.09 6.21 5.93 6.00 6.11 5.86 0.00 3
27 Tatiana KOZMAVA / Alexei SHUMSKI GEO 43.80 21.60 22.20 5.75 5.39 5.54 5.79 5.29 0.00 7
28 Hanna JAKUCS / Daniel ILLES HUN 43.50 22.34 21.16 5.43 5.04 5.39 5.39 5.21 0.00 11
29 Katerina BUNINA / German FROLOV EST 39.47 20.68 19.79 5.04 4.71 5.14 4.96 4.89 1.00 8
30 Adel TANKOVA / Ronald ZILBERBERG ISR 38.49 19.20 20.29 5.11 5.00 5.00 5.32 4.93 1.00 9
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Virginia » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:33 pm

I thought most of the ladies were quite lackluster, up to (but not including) the final group. One notable exception was the Hungarian girl, Toth, who had a lot of potential in my view.

I haven't gotten to watch the final pairs flight yet, but of the ones I've seen, the British couple rather stood out, along with Savchenko and Massot. The latter were clearly in an entirely different class than the rest.

Final random comment: can anybody explain the background to Kiss and Cry? It looks very industrial, but I can't work out if those are supposed to be oil derricks or a refinery or what? Certainly an unusual choice, yes?
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:14 pm

PAIRS FREE SKATE

1 Aljona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT GER 148.59 73.15 75.44 9.36 9.18 9.54 9.57 9.50 0.00 13
2 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV RUS 146.76 72.82 73.94 9.36 9.14 9.29 9.21 9.21 0.00 15
3 Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES FRA 145.84 74.27 71.57 8.79 8.86 9.11 9.04 8.93 0.00 16
4 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV RUS 142.81 70.81 73.00 9.18 8.86 9.11 9.29 9.18 1.00 14
5 Natalia ZABIJAKO / Alexander ENBERT RUS 128.37 63.91 64.46 8.18 7.79 8.07 8.18 8.07 0.00 12
6 Valentina MARCHEI / Ondrej HOTAREK ITA 125.40 62.60 62.80 7.79 7.68 7.93 7.96 7.89 0.00 11
7 Anna DUSKOVA / Martin BIDAR CZE 123.19 65.77 58.42 7.36 7.07 7.43 7.36 7.29 1.00 9
8 Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE ITA 117.02 56.10 60.92 7.61 7.43 7.46 7.82 7.75 0.00 10
9 Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT 108.49 55.58 52.91 6.75 6.36 6.50 6.82 6.64 0.00 6
10 Tatiana DANILOVA / Mikalai KAMIANCHUK BLR 98.28 51.58 47.70 6.14 5.68 5.96 6.07 5.96 1.00 8
11 Rebecca GHILARDI / Filippo AMBROSINI ITA 97.77 54.18 43.59 5.64 5.25 5.50 5.54 5.32 0.00 1
12 Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nolan SEEGERT GER 96.13 51.80 45.33 5.86 5.39 5.68 5.79 5.61 1.00 4
13 Lola ESBRAT / Andrei NOVOSELOV FRA 93.21 45.16 49.05 6.29 5.93 6.11 6.21 6.11 1.00 7
14 Zoe JONES / Christopher BOYADJI GBR 91.10 45.15 45.95 5.82 5.54 5.64 5.86 5.86 0.00 5
15 Lana PETRANOVIC / Antonio SOUZA-KORDEIRU CRO 90.84 48.56 43.28 5.43 5.18 5.36 5.46 5.61 1.00 3
16 Arina CHERNIAVSKAIA / Evgeni KRASNAPOLSKI ISR 85.40 46.80 39.60 5.11 4.82 4.89 5.11 4.82 1.00 2


FINAL STANDINGS - PAIRS

1 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV RUS 227.58 1 2
2 Aljona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT GER 222.35 3 1
3 Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES FRA 220.02 2 3
4 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV RUS 216.51 4 4
5 Natalia ZABIJAKO / Alexander ENBERT RUS 200.75 5 5
6 Valentina MARCHEI / Ondrej HOTAREK ITA 191.93 6 6
7 Anna DUSKOVA / Martin BIDAR CZE 189.09 7 7
8 Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE ITA 180.99 8 8
9 Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT 165.63 9 9
10 Tatiana DANILOVA / Mikalai KAMIANCHUK BLR 151.55 10 10
11 Rebecca GHILARDI / Filippo AMBROSINI ITA 148.48 14 11
12 Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nolan SEEGERT GER 147.40 13 12
13 Lola ESBRAT / Andrei NOVOSELOV FRA 145.72 11 13
14 Zoe JONES / Christopher BOYADJI GBR 143.42 12 14
15 Lana PETRANOVIC / Antonio SOUZA-KORDEIRU CRO 140.09 15 15
16 Arina CHERNIAVSKAIA / Evgeni KRASNAPOLSKI ISR 133.32 16 16


The judges were extremely generous with the scores for the pairs. All but two pairs (DELLA MONICA / GUARISE and PETRANOVIC / SOUZA-KORDEIRU)
earned new SBs, and the three medalwinners topped DUHAMEL / RADFORD on the SB list.
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Maleeva » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:37 pm

The short dance results have been revised and now BobSolo are in first place. Anna and Luca received a one point deduction after the event was over.

http://www.isuresults.com/results/seaso ... Scores.pdf
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Maleeva » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:53 am

How nine professionally trained judges could determine that Stolbova and Klimov had a better PCS "Performance" and "Interpretation of the Music" scores than James and Cipres, sometimes makes me question what I know about skating.

S&K skated like robots today (and I really do like this team). J&C gave the performance of their career and the crowd went nuts. The pairs best program I have seen this season by any team.

I also intensely disliked S&K's music. It does not help them.

Lastly, if someone could explain to me how Savchenko and Massot only received a level 3, not a 4, on their triple Twist, that would be most appreciated. It was spectacular. Tarasova and Morozov received the only level 4 triple twist in the whole event. I cannot see how it was better than S&M's triple twist.
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Dragonlady » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:28 am

Maleeva wrote:How nine professionally trained judges could determine that Stolbova and Klimov had a better PCS "Performance" and "Interpretation of the Music" scores than James and Cipres, sometimes makes me question what I know about skating.

S&K skated like robots today (and I really do like this team). J&C gave the performance of their career and the crowd went nuts. The pairs best program I have seen this season by any team.

I also intensely disliked S&K's music. It does not help them.

Lastly, if someone could explain to me how Savchenko and Massot only received a level 3, not a 4, on their triple Twist, that would be most appreciated. It was spectacular. Tarasova and Morozov received the only level 4 triple twist in the whole event. I cannot see how it was better than S&M's triple twist.


Levels are based on features, not quality. For a L4, the girl has to have a hand over the head while spinning, and the boy has to slap his hands on his legs, I think.

Ugh, Tarasova & Morosov win again. Those two are a cure for insomnia. Lovely clean lines but no connection whatsoever. They manage to be duller than T&M, which is really stretch it. I much prefer the younger Russian team.
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby bumphystars » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:49 pm

Maleeva wrote:The short dance results have been revised and now BobSolo are in first place. Anna and Luca received a one point deduction after the event was over.

http://www.isuresults.com/results/seaso ... Scores.pdf



sorry, huh?

I don't understand how C/L can get this call now after performing the same short dance all season. Did they change something?
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Winnipeg » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:27 pm

You can revise a score afterwards? :?:
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Jonas » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:43 pm

All in all a great pairs FS -- some really good skating and an enthusiastic Czech crowd!! Really made me wish I was there!!

It was great to see Duskova & Bidar skate so well in front of a home crowd. Skating juniors internationally, I thought they'd struggle with the additional 30 seconds, but nope. They were more solid here than they were at the Jr. Grand Prix Final. They should be favored to repeat as Jr. World Champs.

Marchei & Hotarek are always entertaining, but the judges preferred Zabijako & Enbert, who I found to be more dull. Had 5th and 6th been reversed, ITA would've been able to send 3 pairs again to Euros.

Stolbova & Klimov fell again on that throw 3flip -- and the life just go sucked out of the actual performance. I'm not sure if they gave up or not, but I concur that it was just robotic throughout. I want to and should enjoy watching this team more as they really have the technical goods to handle truly unique choreography AND be able to execute fully in a complete performance.

I'm glad Savchenko & Massot have 86'ed the throw 3Axel and throw quad, as they were never close to landing them. They probably should reincorporate throw 3flip and be rock solid on the sbs triples and I think they can challenge Duhamel & Radford for the World title.

Concur re: Tarasova & Morozov -- can't deny the skills, the Soviet style line/carriage/tracking/unison, but after few seasons on the senior circuit, you'd think they'd skate with more personality. They lost to a flawed Savchenko & Massot in the FS here.

James & Cipres were the performance of the night for me too. Big ticket items, check; innovative choreography, check; improved connection/oneness and unison, check; and the ability to get a crowd eating out of their hands; CHECK!!! I was skeptical, at first, thinking they're being too ambitious, but Silvia Fontana and John Zimmerman finally figured something out. Whatever that something is it bumped James & Cipres from B+ pair status to ISU Championship contenders!

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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Barcelona » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:28 pm

Both of the finals so far make me wanna shout out: Vive la France! J/C were certainly one of the highlights of pairs' free and Laurine Lecavelier in ladies'. Obviously the Russians were impressive in both disciplines but I just tend to get the most thrilled about surprises. In addition to Lecavelier there were plenty in ladies. All these magnificent 17-year-olds just keeping their heads cool when it really mattered: Hendrickx, Toth, Peltonen... Just great! I did love Carolina Kostner's comeback but I was happy Anna Pogorilaya managed to move up from what seemed to be becoming an eternal third step of the podium. She had to fight for it but I feel she totally deserved it.

Having lived in Belgium for over three years now I have started rooting for Belgians in many sports and now I'm just thrilled to see the Hendrickx siblings do so well in figure skating: Jorik in 5th after men's short and Loena finishing 7th in ladies' overall. Well done!
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:49 pm

MEN SHORT PROGRAM


1 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP 104.25 56.93 47.32 9.32 9.32 9.54 9.50 9.64 0.00 36 4t+3t, 4s, 3a
2 Maxim KOVTUN RUS 94.53 52.97 41.56 8.39 8.11 8.46 8.39 8.21 0.00 31 4s+3t, 4t, 3a
3 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR 86.68 47.00 39.68 8.04 7.57 8.07 7.89 8.11 0.00 34 3a, 4t, 3f+3t
4 Mikhail KOLYADA RUS 83.96 41.89 42.07 8.43 8.14 8.50 8.46 8.54 0.00 26 4t+3t, 1a*, 3z
5 Jorick HENDRICKX BEL 82.50 43.07 39.43 7.93 7.68 8.00 7.82 8.00 0.00 28 3a, 3z+3t, 3lo
6 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 79.87 42.30 37.57 7.46 7.43 7.54 7.50 7.64 0.00 25 3a, 3z+3t, 3f
7 Alexander MAJOROV SWE 78.87 41.05 37.82 7.54 7.32 7.64 7.61 7.71 0.00 29 4t, 3a, 3t+3t
8 Michal BREZINA CZE 78.61 39.11 40.50 8.18 7.96 8.11 8.14 8.11 1.00 33 3f+3t, 3z, 3a↓
9 Alexander SAMARIN RUS 77.26 40.62 37.64 7.82 7.39 7.43 7.54 7.46 1.00 35 4t↓, 3a, 3z+3t
10 Moris KVITELASHVILI GEO 76.85 43.70 33.15 6.82 6.29 6.75 6.68 6.61 0.00 18 3a, 4t+3t, 3f
11 Chafik BESSEGHIER FRA 76.19 39.18 37.01 7.54 7.18 7.39 7.36 7.54 0.00 27 4t+2t, 4s, 3a
12 Paul FENTZ GER 72.68 39.47 34.21 6.89 6.61 6.86 6.89 6.96 1.00 23 4t↓, 3a, 3z+3t
13 Kevin AYMOZ FRA 71.26 37.48 33.78 6.82 6.43 6.96 6.75 6.82 0.00 19 3a, 3s+3t, 3z
14 Ivan RIGHINI ITA 69.96 34.45 37.51 7.54 7.36 7.43 7.54 7.64 2.00 30 4t↓, 3a<↓, 3z+3t
15 Ivan PAVLOV UKR 68.94 36.47 32.47 6.50 6.18 6.64 6.54 6.61 0.00 22 3a, 3z+3t, 3fe
16 Graham NEWBERRY GBR 67.79 36.43 31.36 6.43 6.07 6.32 6.29 6.25 0.00 20 3a, 3z+3t, 3lo
17 Javier RAYA ESP 66.67 35.21 31.46 6.25 6.00 6.43 6.32 6.46 0.00 9 3a<, 3f+3t, 3z!
18 Maurizio ZANDRON ITA 63.79 32.40 31.39 6.25 6.00 6.39 6.32 6.43 0.00 24 3a, 3z+2t, 3lo
19 Stephane WALKER SUI 62.86 31.12 31.74 6.39 6.07 6.46 6.36 6.46 0.00 21 3a, 3z, 3f!+2t
20 Jiri BELOHRADSKY CZE 60.99 32.28 28.71 5.86 5.50 5.89 5.71 5.75 0.00 13 3z+3t, 2a, 3lo
21 Slavik HAYRAPETYAN ARM 60.69 34.51 26.18 5.50 4.86 5.39 5.29 5.14 0.00 6 3a, 3z, 3s+3t
22 Valtter VIRTANEN FIN 56.52 28.34 29.18 6.07 5.61 5.86 5.82 5.82 1.00 15 3t+3t<↓, 2a, 3lo
23 Sondre ODDVOLL BOE NOR 55.24 25.63 29.61 5.86 5.64 6.00 6.00 6.11 0.00 17 3lo, 3f+2t, 1a*
24 Daniel Albert NAURITS EST 55.14 26.71 28.43 5.89 5.29 5.86 5.68 5.71 0.00 8 3a<, 3z<+3t, 2lo*


FINAL NOT REACHED:

25 Igor REZNICHENKO POL 54.81 30.10 26.71 5.71 5.04 5.18 5.46 5.32 2.00 12 4t<↓, 3a↓, 3f+2t
26 Nicholas VRDOLJAK CRO 53.45 27.13 26.32 5.46 5.11 5.21 5.25 5.29 0.00 16 3f, 2a, 3z+2t
27 Alexander BOROVOJ HUN 53.02 27.73 25.29 5.07 4.75 5.18 5.11 5.18 0.00 2 3f+2t, 3t, 2a
28 Thomas KENNES NED 52.95 26.99 25.96 5.32 4.96 5.18 5.29 5.21 0.00 11 3z+2t, 3lo, 2a
29 Anton KARPUK BLR 52.26 27.24 25.02 5.04 4.79 5.04 5.04 5.11 0.00 4 3a<, 3f+3t, 3z
30 Mark GORODNITSKY ISR 51.72 25.73 25.99 5.46 5.07 5.14 5.21 5.11 0.00 10 3f, 3ze+3t, 2a
31 Larry LOUPOLOVER AZE 51.30 25.87 25.43 5.36 4.50 5.25 5.07 5.25 0.00 7 2z*, 3z+3t, 2a
32 Engin Ali ARTAN TUR 50.38 27.95 22.43 4.68 4.25 4.57 4.50 4.43 0.00 3 3a<, 3t+3t, 3lo
33 Daniel SAMOHIN ISR 50.33 14.93 35.40 7.32 6.93 6.79 7.25 7.11 0.00 32 3t-nc, 2s*, 1a*
34 Michael NEUMAN SVK 47.67 24.49 24.18 5.00 4.64 4.79 4.79 4.96 1.00 1 3z+2t, 2a, 3f↓
35 Nicky OBREYKOV BUL 44.83 19.50 25.33 5.29 4.86 4.93 5.18 5.07 0.00 14 1f*+3t, 3a, 1lo*
36+B3:Q38B1:Q38Q3B6:Q38 Mario-Rafael IONIAN AUT 42.62 19.52 23.10 4.71 4.39 4.61 4.71 4.68 0.00 5 2s+3t, 3lo<<, 2a


LADIES FREE SKATE RESULTS


1 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS 150.79 75.86 74.93 9.29 9.04 9.54 9.54 9.43 0.00 22 3f+3t, 3z!, 3lo, 3f, 2a+2t+2t, 3s+3t, 2a+3t*+rep
2 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 138.12 64.45 73.67 9.25 8.86 9.18 9.39 9.36 0.00 23 3t+3t, 3f, 3lo, 2a+2t+2lo, 3lo<+2t, 2a, 3s
3 Anna POGORILAYA RUS 137.00 67.75 69.25 8.71 8.50 8.68 8.75 8.64 0.00 24 3z, 3f!, 3z+3t<, 3lo+1lo+3s, 3lo+2t, 2a
4 Laurine LECAVELIER FRA 124.29 64.09 61.20 7.64 7.11 7.93 7.64 7.93 1.00 20 3z+3t, 3f, 2a+3t, 3s, 3lo, 3z+1lo+2s, 2a, time
5 Maria SOTSKOVA RUS 120.35 59.19 63.16 8.18 7.75 7.61 7.93 8.00 2.00 19 3z+3t<↓, 3f, 3lo<, 3f+1lo+3s, 3z<↓, 2a+2t, 2a
6 Nicole RAJICOVA SVK 118.72 60.83 57.89 7.36 6.93 7.43 7.14 7.32 0.00 17 3z+2lo, 3f, 3lo+2t+2lo, 3z<, 3lo+2t, 3t, 2a
7 Loena HENDRICKX BEL 117.30 60.60 56.70 7.14 6.86 7.11 7.11 7.21 0.00 15 3z, 3f+2t, 3f, 2a+2lo, 2a, 3s+2t+2lo, 3s
8 Ivett TOTH HUN 111.16 53.38 57.78 7.18 7.04 7.21 7.43 7.25 0.00 21 3z+1lo+3s<, 3lo, 3f, 2a, 2z, 3t^2a, 3s
9 Emmi PELTONEN FIN 107.05 52.35 54.70 7.04 6.54 6.93 6.82 6.86 0.00 9 3t+3t, 2z, 3lo, 2a+1lo+3s, 3lo+2t, 2f, 2a
10 Nicole SCHOTT GER 103.75 49.66 56.09 7.21 6.82 6.82 7.07 7.14 2.00 16 3lo, 2f↓, 3t+3t↓, 3s+2t, 3s, 2a, 1a+2t
11 Matilda ALGOTSSON SWE 103.28 52.66 50.62 6.43 6.18 6.39 6.32 6.32 0.00 12 3z!, 3lo+2t, 3lo, 3s+2t, 3s, 2a, 2a!+2lo+2lo
12 Roberta RODEGHIERO ITA 103.23 46.76 56.47 7.18 6.75 7.00 7.18 7.18 0.00 18 3z!, 3f, 3lo, 3f+2t, 3t, 2s, 2a
13 Joshi HELGESSON SWE 98.93 46.87 52.06 6.79 6.18 6.46 6.54 6.57 0.00 8 3z<+2t+2lo, 3f<, 3t^2a, 3z<, 3s<, 3t+2t, 2a
14 Anastasia GALUSTYAN ARM 98.74 45.72 53.02 6.82 6.39 6.57 6.68 6.68 0.00 13 3z, 3f!, 3lo<, 1a, 3s+1lo+2f, 2s+2t, 3t^2a
15 Helery HÄLVIN EST 94.96 47.36 49.60 6.50 6.00 6.14 6.18 6.18 2.00 10 3z+2t, 3f+2t, 3z↓, 3s<, 3t↓, 2a+1lo+2s, 2a
16 Natasha McKAY GBR 94.88 48.20 46.68 5.82 5.54 6.14 5.75 5.93 0.00 3 3lo+2t, 3lo, 3s+2t, 3s<, 2a, 2a
17 Nathalie WEINZIERL GER 94.70 47.61 49.09 6.50 5.93 5.93 6.25 6.07 2.00 4 3z+2t+1lo, 3lo↓, 2a+3t<↓. 3z, 3t, 3t
18 Angelina KUCHVALSKA LAT 90.58 43.62 46.96 6.14 5.71 5.86 5.75 5.89 0.00 2 1z, 2a, 3f<+2t, 3t^1a, 3s+2t+2lo, 3s, 2a
19 Mae Berenice MEITE FRA 90.11 43.98 50.13 6.68 6.11 6.04 6.36 6.14 4.00 14 2a, 3lo+2t, 3z↓, 2a, 3z↓+rep, 3s↓
20 Anna KHNYCHENKOVA UKR 87.64 47.69 41.95 5.68 5.00 5.36 5.21 4.96 2.00 5 2a, 3f↓, 3lo, 2a+3t, 3z+2t, 3z<, 3s↓
21 Michaela-Lucie HANZLIKOVA CZE 85.84 40.15 46.69 5.96 5.68 5.79 5.89 5.86 1.00 7 3s, 2a+3t<<, 3t↓, 2lo, 2a, 3lo, 2z+2t
22 Viveca LINDFORS FIN 80.62 37.48 45.14 6.04 5.54 5.39 5.64 5.61 2.00 6 2z+2t, 3t^2a, 3f↓, 2t, 3z<, 3s<↓, 1a+1lo+2f
23 Anne Line GJERSEM NOR 80.62 39.94 42.68 5.57 5.18 5.29 5.32 5.32 2.00 1 3f!<, 3s+2t+2lo, 3lo+2t, 3lo<↓, 2a, 3s<↓, 2a
24 Kerstin FRANK AUT 80.61 36.63 43.98 6.07 5.14 5.43 5.46 5.39 0.00 11 3z, 3t, 1s, 3t+1t, 3s<, 1a, 2a


FINAL STANDINGS - LADIES

1 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS 229.71 1 1
2 Anna POGORILAYA RUS 211.39 2 3
3 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 210.52 3 2
4 Maria SOTSKOVA RUS 192.52 4 5
5 Laurine LECAVELIER FRA 188.10 5 4
6 Nicole RAJICOVA SVK 179.70 7 6
7 Loena HENDRICKX BEL 172.71 11 7
8 Ivett TOTH HUN 172.65 6 8
9 Roberta RODEGHIERO ITA 161.00 8 12
10 Nicole SCHOTT GER 160.63 9 10
11 Emmi PELTONEN FIN 160.57 14 9
12 Anastasia GALUSTYAN ARM 155.14 10 14
13 Matilda ALGOTSSON SWE 154.63 18 11
14 Joshi HELGESSON SWE 152.86 13 13
15 Helery HÄLVIN EST 146.68 16 15
16 Mae Berenice MEITE FRA 145.07 12 19
17 Nathalie WEINZIERL GER 143.40 22 17
18 Natasha McKAY GBR 140.85 24 16
19 Angelina KUCHVALSKA LAT 139.63 20 18
20 Michaela-Lucie HANZLIKOVA CZE 138.23 15 21
21 Anna KHNYCHENKOVA UKR 136.57 21 20
22 Kerstin FRANK AUT 132.08 17 24
23 Viveca LINDFORS FIN 130.10 19 22
24 Anne Line GJERSEM NOR 128.68 23 23
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby tennisfan » Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:44 am

bumphystars wrote:
Maleeva wrote:The short dance results have been revised and now BobSolo are in first place. Anna and Luca received a one point deduction after the event was over.

http://www.isuresults.com/results/seaso ... Scores.pdf



sorry, huh?

I don't understand how C/L can get this call now after performing the same short dance all season. Did they change something?


They changed their straight line lift and after the straight line lift they performed another lift which is suppose to be choreographic highlight but they changed the program from what they had been skating earlier in the season so that Anna swings around Lucca a couple of times which makes it an extra element instead of choreography.
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Maleeva » Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:43 pm

I loved Deniss Vasiljevs' step sequence and and the final sit spin in his short program. So glad he received all 2s and 3 for GOE on those two elements. He has added so many new moves to a step sequence that we have not seen before and the position he achieves in the final sit spin I have never seen before. And he actually knows how to center a spin which often seems to be a lost art among this generation of skaters. I'm sure having Stephane Lambiel as his coach only helps with all this creativity in his moves.

I am hoping he has quads in his arsenal by the time the 2022 games roll around.
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Maleeva » Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:48 pm

Virginia wrote:
Final random comment: can anybody explain the background to Kiss and Cry? It looks very industrial, but I can't work out if those are supposed to be oil derricks or a refinery or what? Certainly an unusual choice, yes?


Viginia to me it just looks like a town square with hills in the background from Ostrava.
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Maleeva » Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:51 pm

Dragonlady wrote:
Maleeva wrote:
Lastly, if someone could explain to me how Savchenko and Massot only received a level 3, not a 4, on their triple Twist, that would be most appreciated. It was spectacular. Tarasova and Morozov received the only level 4 triple twist in the whole event. I cannot see how it was better than S&M's triple twist.


Levels are based on features, not quality. For a L4, the girl has to have a hand over the head while spinning, and the boy has to slap his hands on his legs, I think.

Ugh, Tarasova & Morosov win again. Those two are a cure for insomnia. Lovely clean lines but no connection whatsoever. They manage to be duller than T&M, which is really stretch it. I much prefer the younger Russian team.


Aha. Thanks DL!
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:28 pm

FREE DANCE RESULTS

1 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 114.19 56.87 57.32 9.54 9.36 9.64 9.54 9.68 0.00 20 CiSt3, DiSt3 - all else L4
2 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 110.99 54.69 56.30 9.21 9.11 9.46 9.50 9.64 0.00 19 CiSt3, DiSt3 - all else L4
3 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitry SOLOVIEV RUS 110.38 53.95 56.43 9.32 9.25 9.50 9.39 9.57 0.00 18 CiSt2, DiSt3 - all else L4
4 Isabella TOBIAS / Ilia TKACHENKO ISR 99.94 49.17 50.77 8.36 8.21 8.61 8.57 8.57 0.00 17 CiSt2, DiSt3 - all else L4
5 Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN RUS 98.76 47.54 51.22 8.46 8.29 8.57 8.68 8.68 0.00 15 Stw3, CiSt2, DiSt1 - all else L4
6 Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SORENSEN DEN 94.66 48.92 46.74 7.82 7.57 7.96 7.82 7.79 1.00 13 CoSp2, CiSt3, DiSt3 - all else L4; extended lift
7 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA 93.22 44.76 50.46 8.46 8.32 8.21 8.57 8.50 2.00 16 SeSt4, DiSt2, CuLi1 - all else L4; both fell CuLi
8 Natalisa KALISZEK / Maksim SPODIREV POL 92.67 45.78 46.89 7.64 7.61 7.89 7.89 8.04 0.00 12 SeSt2, DiSt1 - all else L4
9 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR 91.35 46.02 45.33 7.57 7.32 7.68 7.64 7.57 0.00 10
10 Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR 91.29 45.61 45.68 7.57 7.43 7.50 7.82 7.75 0.00 11
11 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC FRA 90.92 48.29 43.63 7.29 7.04 7.32 7.32 7.39 1.00 6 extended lift
12 Viktoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV RUS 89.84 41.72 49.12 8.21 8.18 7.93 8.50 8.11 1.00 14 CiSt3, Stw0, DiSt2 - all else L4; time
13 Kavita LORENZ / Joti POLIZOAKIS GER 86.69 43.42 43.27 7.14 6.96 7.21 7.39 7.36 0.00 9
14 Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON GBR 86.24 45.43 40.81 6.64 6.43 6.93 6.93 7.07 0.00 5
15 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 84.84 41.15 43.69 7.39 6.93 7.29 7.36 7.43 0.00 8
16 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Lukas CSOLLEY SVK 83.80 41.78 42.02 7.04 6.68 7.11 7.04 7.14 0.00 3
17 Taylor TRAN / Saulius AMBRULEVICIUS LTU 80.08 41.68 38.40 6.36 6.14 6.54 6.50 6.46 0.00 2
18 Cecilia TÖRN / Jussiville PARTANEN FIN 76.12 37.56 40.56 6.86 6.50 6.79 6.86 6.79 2.00 7 both fell on choreographic lift
19 Tina GARABEDIAN / Simon PROULX-SENECAL ARM 75.05 36.51 38.54 6.43 6.25 6.46 6.54 6.43 0.00 4
20 Viktoria KAVALIOVA / Yurii BIELIAIEV BLR 73.03 36.13 36.90 6.18 5.96 6.11 6.39 6.11 0.00 1



FINAL STANDINGS - ICE DANCE

1 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 189.67 3 1
2 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 186.64 2 2
3 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitry SOLOVIEV RUS 186.56 1 3
4 Isabella TOBIAS / Ilia TKACHENKO ISR 169.29 5 4
5 Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN RUS 166.93 6 5
6 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA 163.68 4 7
7 Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SORENSEN DEN 160.68 7 6
8 Natalisa KALISZEK / Maksim SPODIREV POL 156.02 10 8
9 Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR 154.65 9 10
10 Viktoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV RUS 154.51 8 12
11 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR 153.68 11 9
12 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC FRA 152.40 12 11
13 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 141.36 13 15
14 Kavita LORENZ / Joti POLIZOAKIS GER 141.32 15 13
15 Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON GBR 136.99 19 14
16 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Lukas CSOLLEY SVK 136.64 17 16
17 Cecilia TÖRN / Jussiville PARTANEN FIN 131.11 14 18
18 Taylor TRAN / Saulius AMBRULEVICIUS LTU 129.95 20 17
19 Tina GARABEDIAN / Simon PROULX-SENECAL ARM 128.05 16 19
20 Viktoria KAVALIOVA / Yurii BIELIAIEV BLR 125.42 18 20


Podium pretty much as expected, but the Israelis made a big jump from last year's 10tn to 4th this year.
The judges were not nearly as generous with FD scores as they were with the SD---only 5 teams got SB scores (Cappellini / Lanotte, Fournier / Sorensen, Kaliszek / Spodirev , Nazarova / Nikitin, Lauriault / Legac). Hurtado / Khaliavin got an SB score that wasn't really their SB score---but that was because they weren't on the SB list since their previous competitions were B non-Challenge events that don't make the SB list.

Bobrova / Soloviev were clearly not pleased to be relegated from 1st to 3rd, but clearly that was where they should have placed. C/L and P/C both way outperformed them and that was clear from the audience reaction.
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Re: 2017 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Ellen » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:54 pm

chuckiem wrote:Bobrova / Soloviev were clearly not pleased to be relegated from 1st to 3rd, but clearly that was where they should have placed. C/L and P/C both way outperformed them and that was clear from the audience reaction.


To me the croud greeted Bobrova/Soloviev very well, not less than the Italian couple. The Italians had more entertaining dance (Charlie Chaplin) which of course is easier to be liked by the crowd who doesn't understand much in ice-dancing.

What looks ridiculous to me is how the Italians could be given such high marks with such bad slow skating and why they got level 4 on twizzles with the rude mistake. There must be somebody from Italy in the technical panel - maybe technical controller or technical specialist. Chuckiem, please write from where the technical panel was on the FD.
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