2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Maleeva » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:26 pm

Horrible news for Adam. Out of nationals and a chance at Worlds:

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2017/01/09/213153576
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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Maleeva » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:29 pm

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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:00 pm

Junior skater Ashley Kim, 2nd at Midwest Sectionals, is out too.
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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Jonas » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:20 pm

Alexa Scimeca & Chris Knierim have withdrawn from the Championship Pairs citing lack of training time. They've been out of competition all season this season. Ashley Cain & Tim Leduc could very well win the US title in their first try as a team!

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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:55 pm

Nah, IMO Haven DENNEY / Brandon FRAZIER will probably win the Pairs Championship. They were impressive in the GP and should have gone to the GPF if they were not unfairly (but predictably) placed behind I/M at SC.
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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Jonas » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:20 pm

Denney & Frazier, IMO, have the strongest pairs skills and skate with the most "oneness" among the American teams, so I won't disagree that they'll be the favorites in Kansas City. Cain & Leduc, however, take full advantage of their prior singles jumping skills by offering the most ambitions side by side jumps: 3loop and 2Axel+1Loop+3Salchow!! Cain & Leduc hit them quite well at Golden Spin and I think that they'll turn some heads in KC if they skate a similar performance.

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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Maleeva » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:02 am

These predictions are pretty predictable but I think Hubbell and Donohue will pass Chock and Bates:

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2017/01/12/212725780
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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Maleeva » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:18 am

Good lord! Now Jason will skate in Kansas City with an injury!

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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:48 am

Jason doesn't need the quad to place well at Nationals, and he will have plenty of time to heal up before Worlds. I just hope Nathan steers clear of the gala this time......
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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:57 am

Maleeva wrote:These predictions are pretty predictable but think Hubbell and Donohue will pass Chock and Bates:

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2017/01/12/212725780


I don't get those predictions for Ross Miner / Grant Hochstein on the podium. I like both of them, but they have been just awful this season and I could see Andrew Torgashev and/or Tim Dolensky finishing ahead of both of them.
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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Jonas » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:00 pm

I think the top 3 will be some combination of Nathan Chen, Jason Brown, and Max Aaron. Obviously, top 2 go to Helsinki. Here's my take on them:

Hard to disagree with Nathan Chen being the favorite to win in Kansas City. His layout includes 4-5 quads including both 4Lutz AND 4flip -- huge point getters!! His spins, footwork, and musical interpretation are good enough; his ice coverage is decent; and his speed is well sustained throughout, which is even more impressive given he has at least 4 quads planned. So all in all he's got a complete enough package to win, plus, and probably most importantly, he's got the ability to execute most of his planned content consistently. I can't see how anyone can really catch Chen mathematically, so I'd bet on him winning and positioning himself solidly as a World medal contender!

If Jason Brown is not dealing with a nagging injury, I'd solidly have in 2nd and on the World Team w/Chen. He's a good, steady competitor and, as we've seen, he can milk points from every little movement. He's finally proven that he can stand up a clean, one-footed quad in competition. This injury changes things. If his lone quad attempt is left out, he puts himself at an additional points disadvantage that I don't think his PCS can make up for.

Max Aaron has a new SP, is adding a third quad (4toe) to his FS, and is reportedly recovered from a previously undisclosed injury during the Grand Prix. Even when he was injured he still was able to land at least one clean quad in both Grand Prix events. Like it or not, fair or not, Max can be exciting to watch when he's on -- and he, accordingly, scores well.

I concur w/Chuckie somewhat that the pewter medal is more wide open to a youngster. Grant Hochstein, unfortunately, lost all of his momentum gained from his top 10 Worlds finish. Ross Miner, in my frank opinion, is done. Tim Dolensky and Alexander Johnson have been equally forgettable. I predict Vincent Zhou will nab that pewter medal.

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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:47 pm

Jonas, I agree that Vincent is best poised to finish on the podium. I do think Torgashev (who is still recovering from injury) will be a podium contender next year. Things being as they are, it is possible for Dolensky to pass both Miner and Hochstein in the standings. Tim did better in his internationals than they did.
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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Maleeva » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:01 pm

Interesting article about Gracie going back with her old coach to train for the past month. But will that be enough to help her challenge Ashley next week at nationals?

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2017/01/13/213471200
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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:57 pm

Gracie doesn't have to challenge Ashley---she just has to finish top 3 and continue to get herself in 100% shape in time for Worlds.
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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:14 pm

The 4th place Intermediate lady, Emily Zhang, scored 83.58 for this FS: 2a, 3z+2t, 3lo+2lo, 3lo, 3s+1lo+3s, 3f
The score includes 5 bonus points (1point for each initial 2a and triple landed)

She would have won the competition had she not popped the 3f in her SP (planned: 2a, 3z+2t, 3f) She landed the 3z combo but got 0 for the 1f.
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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:07 pm

NOVICE LADIES SP RESULTS 1.00 bonus for triple if not <<

1 48.89 Alysa LIU 3z+3t<, 3f!, 2a
2 48.66 Angelina HUANG 3f+2t, 3z, 2a
3 47.63 Ting CUI 2a, 3t+3t<, 3s
4 47.47 Alyssa RICH 2a, 3z, 3t+2t
5 47.35 Pooja KALYAN 3f+2t, 3z-so, 2a
6 45.16 Iliana SHERMAN 3s+2t, 3lo, 2a
7 43.44 Emma COPPESS 3lo<+2t, 3t, 2a
8 43.26 Isabella MILLER 3t+3t<↓, 3s, 2a
9 40.12 Audrey SHIN 3z<+3t<, 3f!<, 2a<
10 39.24 Hanna HARRELL 3f-nc, 3z↓, 2a
11 37.71 Analise GONZALEZ 3ze+2t, 3f!, 2a↓
12 36.48 Lily SUN 3lo<↓, 3t-nc, 2a

NOVICE MEN SP RESULTS 1.00 bonus for triple if not <<

1 55.82 Maxim NAUMOV 3z+2t, 3f, 2a
2 52.04 Joseph KANG 3z+2t, 3lo, 2a
3 51.98 Dinh TRAN 3z+2t, 3f, 2a
4 48.35 Jordan EVANS 3t, 3z+2t, 2a
5 47.60 Joonsoo KIM 2a, 3z+2t, 3f<↓
6 47.50 Lucas ALTIERI 3s+3t, 3lo, 2a
7 47.36 Alex WELLMAN 3z+3t<<, 3fe, 2a↓
8 44.53 Max WANG 3t+3t↓, 3s↓, 2a
9 43.77 Paul YEUNG 3f, 2a, 3z<↓-nc
10 43.15 Alan WONG 3z+2t, 3f!, 2a
11 42.81 Jonathan YANG 2z, 3t+2t, 2a
12 42.28 Patrick FROHLING 3s, 2z+2t, 2a

NOVICE PAIRS SP RESULTS

1 45.58 Erin COLEMAN / Derrick GRIFFIN
2 39.67 Ainsley PETERSON / Kristofer OGREN
3 39.14 Greta CRAFOORD / John CRAFOORD
4 36.04 Eliana SECUNDA / Blake EISENACH
5 34.82 Jasmine FENDI / Joshua FENDI
6 34.11 Isabelle GOLDSTEIN / Keyton BEARINGER
7 32.63 Katherina FRANTZ / Nicolas FRANTZ
8 27.56 Cora DE WYRE / Jacob NUSSLE
9 25.94 Lauren BALL / Scott DUDLEY
10 24.06 Hillary ASHER / Nathan RENSING
11 23.90 Ashley HAYWOOD / Alec SCHMITT
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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Jonas » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:38 pm

IMO, the bonus should be reduced to somewhere around 0.5 to 0.75 for triples called with carrots. While I appreciate the USFSA's efforts to reward novices to start putting triples out in competition, I also think that these coaches should hone their skaters in on fully rotating their jumps.

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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:51 pm

Skate Canada gives bonuses to <, !, ↓ and e, but not to << . However, SC doesn't take points off for falls, while USFS takes off 0.5 per fall
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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby nadioso » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:29 pm

chuckiem wrote:Skate Canada gives bonuses to <, !, ↓ and e, but not to << . However, SC doesn't take points off for falls, while USFS takes off 0.5 per fall


Skate Canada does not give bonuses to <. All jumps must be fully rotated for the bonus in Canada. They will give the bonus for a fully rotated jump with a fall or edge call.

The main differences between Canada and the US are the following.

US gives bonus for the first time a specific triple is completed. There is no bonus in the US for a repeated triple. SC will count the repeated triple.

Skate Canada only gives bonuses for triple loop and harder in novice men. All triples get bonus in novice ladies in Canada.

Skate Canada also gives a bonus for combos where the second jump is a triple.

The other thing is that 3 jump combos are not allowed in Canada novice and lower. In Skate Detroit 2015 Gogolev did a 3F-1R-3S combo in novice men. He could not even attempt that combo in a novice mens competition in Canada.

Falls at novice and below have a 0.5 penalty in US . No penalty for falls on jumps in Canada; just the -GOE.
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Re: 2017 US CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:32 pm

NOVICE LADIES FREESKATE RESULTS

1- 95.05 56.64 38.91 0.50 Ting CUI 2a+3t, 3z↓, 3f, 2a+1lo+3s, 3s, 3t+2t
2- 94.53 57.59 37.94 1.00 Angelina HUANG 3lo, 3z+1lo<<+3s, 3f!+2t, 3f!, 3z+2t, 2a, time
3- 87.45 54.71 33.74 1.00 Hanna HARRELL 3z+1t+2lo, 3z, 2a+3t, 3f↓, 3f+2t, 3s↓
4- 84.42 48.30 36.12 0.00 Pooja KALYAN 3f!, 3z+2t-so, 3s, 3f!+rep saved, 2a, 3t+2t
5- 83.42 49.42 35.00 1.00 Alyssa RICH 3t, 3f, 3z, 3s<+2t+2lo, 3t-hd+2t, 2a+2lo, time
6- 82.79 49.78 33.01 0.00 Alysa LIU 3z+3t<, 3f!<+1lo+3s<, 3lo<, 3z<, 3f+2t, 2a
7- 78.19 46.51 33.18 1.50 Isabella MILLER 3t+3t, 3lo↓, 2a+1lo+3s, 3s+2t, 2z, 2a, time
8- 75.80 42.69 33.61 0.50 Audrey SHIN 3z!+3t<, 2a, 3f<+2t+2lo, 3lo<, 3z!<<↓, 3f<
9- 72.56 38.65 33.91 0.00 Iliana SHERMAN 3t<, 3lo+2t, 3s<+1t, 3lo, 3s<-fo, 2a+1lo+2s
10- 67.35 36.40 31.45 0.50 Emma COPPESS 3lo+2t, 1f!, 3t^2a, 3t+2t, 3lo<, 3s<↓
11- 65.89 37.44 28.95 0.50 Lily SUN 3s+2t, 3t+2t+2lo, 1lo, 3s<↓, 3t, 2a^2a
12- 59.74 31.60 29.64 1.50 Analise GONZALEZ 3ze↓, 3f!↓, 3s, 3f<↓+rep, 2a+2t+1lo<<, 2a


NOVICE LADIES FINAL STANDINGS

1 Angelina HUANG 143.19 2 2
2 Ting CUI 142.68 3 1
3 Pooja KALYAN 131.77 5 4
4 Alysa LIU 131.68 1 6
5 Alyssa RICH 130.89 4 5
6 Hanna HARRELL 126.69 10 3
7 Isabella MILLER 121.45 8 7
8 Iliana SHERMAN 117.72 6 9
9 Audrey SHIN 115.92 9 8
10 Emma COPPESS 110.79 7 10
11 Lily SUN 102.37 12 11
12 Analise GONZALEZ 97.45 11 12



NOVICE MEN FREESKATE RESULTS

1- 122.03 69.08 52.95 0.00 Maxim NAUMOV 3z-hd+2t, 3f+1lo+3s, 2a, 3lo, 3z, 3t+2t, 3s
2- 114.55 63.65 50.90 0.00 Joseph KANG 3z+2t, 3t, 3s, 3lo, 3z, 3s+2t<, 2a^2a
3- 100.61 57.79 43.32 0.50 Paul YEUNG 2a, 3z+2t, 3f+3t<↓, 3s, 3f, 2a+2lo+2t, 3z-to
4- 100.35 54.95 45.90 0.50 Joonsoo KIM 3f, 3lo, 3z↓, 3t+2t, 3s, 3z^1t, 1a
5- 98.76 58.89 40.37 0.50 Lucas ALTIERI 3z↓, 3s+3t<, 3lo, 2a+3t, 3lo+2t+2lo, 2a, 3s
6- 97.43 53.37 44.56 0.50 Dinh TRAN 1z, 3f+2t, 2a, 3z+2t, 3t, 3f↓, 3s+1lo+2s
7- 93.48 50.08 43.40 0.00 Patrick FROHLING 3t+2t, 3z, 2a, 0 csp, 3s+1lo+2s, 3lo, 3s, 2a+2t
8- 92.81 49.28 44.03 0.50 Jonathan YANG 3z, 3t+2t, 3lo<↓, 3t+2t+2lo, 2a+2lo, 2z, 2a
9- 91.03 50.14 40.89 0.00 Jordan EVANS 3f, 1z, 3t+2t, 3lo, 3t, 2a+2lo, 2a+2t+2lo
10- 85.88 46.81 39.07 0.00 Alan WONG 3f+1lo+3lo, 3z, 2a, 3z+1t, 3f, 2s<<, 1s+1t
11- 80.08 43.31 36.77 0.00 Max WANG 3t+3t, 2f, 2a, 3s+2t, 2lo, 2a, 3s+2t
12- 79.88 38.44 42.44 1.00 Alex WELLMAN 3z+2t, 2a, 3f!, 3s+1lo, 0 fcosp, 3z↓, 3fe+2t↓, 3t<<, 0 Ccosp



FINAL STANDINGS NOVICE MEN

1 Maxim NAUMOV 177.85 1 1
2 Joseph KANG 166.59 2 2
3 Dinh TRAN 149.41 3 6
4 Joonsoo KIM 147.95 5 4
5 Lucas ALTIERI 146.26 6 5
6 Paul YEUNG 144.38 9 3
7 Jordan EVANS 139.38 4 9
8 Patrick FROHLING 135.76 12 7
9 Jonathan YANG 135.62 11 8
10 Alan WONG 129.03 10 10
11 Alex WELLMAN 127.24 7 12
12 Max WANG 124.61 8 11

NOVICE PAIRS FREESKATE RESULTS

1- 88.86 42.85 46.01 0.00 Erin COLEMAN / Derrick GRIFFIN
2- 81.19 39.80 41.39 0.00 Ainsley PETERSON / Kristofer OGREN
3- 72.89 32.72 40.17 0.00 Greta CRAFOORD / John CRAFOORD
4- 70.45 37.25 33.20 0.00 Katherina FRANTZ / Nicolas FRANTZ
5- 68.43 32.23 37.20 1.00 Eliana SECUNDA / Blake EISENACH
6- 66.74 27.75 39.99 1.00 Jasmine FENDI / Joshua FENDI
7- 64.86 30.43 34.43 0.00 Isabelle GOLDSTEIN / Keyton BEARINGER
8- 60.98 28.32 33.66 1.00 Cora DE WYRE / Jacob NUSSLE
9- 55.53 25.89 30.64 1.00 Ashley HAYWOOD / Alec SCHMITT
10- 54.25 25.62 28.63 0.00 Lauren BALL / Scott DUDLEY
11- 49.59 17.10 33.49 1.00 Hillary ASHER / Nathan RENSING


NOVICE PAIRS FINAL STANDINGS

1 Erin COLEMAN / Derrick GRIFFIN 134.44 1 1
2 Ainsley PETERSON / Kristofer OGREN 120.86 2 2
3 Greta CRAFOORD / John CRAFOORD 112.03 3 3
4 Eliana SECUNDA / Blake EISENACH 104.47 4 5
5 Katherina FRANTZ / Nicolas FRANTZ 103.08 7 4
6 Jasmine FENDI / Joshua FENDI 101.56 5 6
7 Isabelle GOLDSTEIN / Keyton BEARINGER 98.97 6 7
8 Cora DE WYRE / Jacob NUSSLE 88.54 8 8
9 Lauren BALL / Scott DUDLEY 80.19 9 10
10 Ashley HAYWOOD / Alec SCHMITT 79.43 11 9
11 Hillary ASHER / Nathan RENSING 73.65 10 11


RESULTS NOVICE PATTERN DANCES

1 Jocelyn HAINES / James KOSZUTA 47.11 1 4
2 Sophia ELDER / Christopher ELDER 45.93 2 1
3 Elizabeth TKACHENKO / Alexei KILIAKOV 43.58 4 2
4 Katarina DelCAMP / Maxwell GART 42.19 3 6
5 Allie ROSE / Spencer EMERSON 39.35 8 3
6 Isabella AMOIA / Cory FRAIMAN 39.00 6 8
7 Cherri CHEN / YuanShi JIN 37.51 7 7
8 Isabel BLAHUNKA / Will SHAWVER 34.72 10 5
9 Molly CESANEK / Nicolay USANOV 34.04 5 11
10 Leah KRAUSKOPF / Caleb NIVA 32.18 11 9
11 Claire PURNELL / Lucas PURNELL 30.45 9 10
12 Susan TALBOT / Ryan O'DONNELL 20.03 12 12


RESULTS JUNIOR PAIRS SHORT PROGRAM

1- 54.66 31.72 23.94 1.00 Nica DIGERNESS / Danny NEUDECKER
2- 54.01 31.90 22.11 0.00 Elli KOPMAR / Jonah BARRETT
3- 53.55 29.43 24.12 0.00 Alexandra YAO / Austin HALE
4- 52.48 30.02 22.46 0.00 Lindsay WEINSTEIN / Jacob SIMON
5- 49.22 29.59 20.63 1.00 Vanessa CHEN / Eric HARTLEY
6- 48.81 27.10 21.71 0.00 Gabriella MARVALDI / Daniel VILLENEUVE
7- 47.94 26.68 21.26 0.00 Isabella GAMEZ / Griffin SCHWAB
8- 47.45 26.93 20.52 0.00 Laiken LOCKLEY / Keenan PROCHNOW
9- 46.42 27.73 19.69 1.00 Emma COPPESS / Robert HENNINGS
10- 44.10 24.95 19.15 0.00 Kate FINSTER / Brandon KOZLOWSKI
11- 39.82 21.51 18.31 0.00 Jillian SMART / Matthew ROUNIS
12- 34.47 17.81 16.66 0.00 Hannah KLOPSTOCK / Daniel ARSENAULT
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