RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby ihsia » Wed Dec 28, 2016 3:27 pm

Japanese world teams (translated from a Chinese site, Sohu Sports)
http://sports.sohu.com/20161227/n477118644.shtml

World (3/29-4/2; Helsinki)
Men: Uno, Hanyu, Tanaka
Ladies: Miyahara, Higuchi, Mihara
Pairs: Suto/Boudreau-Audet
Dance: Muramoto/Reed

4 CC (2/15-19; Korea)
Men: Uno, Hanyu, Tanaka
Ladies: Miyahara, Higuchi, Mihara
Pairs: Suto/Boudreau-Audet, Suzaki/Kihara
Dance: Muramoto/Reed, Hirai/De La Asuncion

Asian Winter (2/23-26; Japan)
Men: Uno, Mura
Ladies: Miyahara, Hongo
Pairs: Suzaki/Hihara, Takahashi/Shibata
Dance: Muramoto/Reed, Mori/Suzuki

World Jr. (3/15-19; Taipei)
Men: Tomono, Shimada
Ladies: Sakamoto, Honda, Shiraiwa
Dance: Fukase/Tateno

(I hope I matched the names right:)
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Jonas » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:38 pm

Since I've commented on the depth of ladies' talent in Russian, I figured it'd only be fair that I do the same regarding the depth of ladies' talent in Japan.

Mao Asada, who's been struggling w/injury, actually put forth what I thought was her strongest FS of this season, but still finishes 12th in the segment and overall. Her musicality and ice presence are still there, but she no longer has any cushion against the half dozen young, hungry teenagers on either the technical or component side. The youngsters skate fast, have great jumps, present themselves well, and are just hungry to make a name for herself -- much like Mao when she was just a teenager.

Similarly, Rika Hongo -- a reliable competitor who finished top 6 at the last two Worlds -- found herself passed by. It'll be tough for her to make it out of Japan again, but I don't think she's completely out of the game either. Japan did send Hongo to compete at the World University Games.

IMO, the six ladies headed off to Worlds/Four Continents and to Jr. Worlds are currently Japan's strongest competitors. On any given day I find them all evenly matched and they'll all be age eligible for Pyeongchang!! Miyahara is now Japan's headliner on paper, but I do think both Mai Mihara and Wakaba Higuchi have the goods to challenge her and I hope they do so.

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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby tennisfan » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:51 pm

It's nice to see the Japanese developing a real competition for both ice dance and pairs - maybe the team medal at the Olympics is having a positive effect of pushing countries to create entries in each discipline.
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby GoFigure » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:45 am

chuckiem wrote:
SHORT DANCE RESULTS talk about NATIONAL INFLATION !! :roll:



That is just plain stupid. Hugely inflated scores are no use for anyone.
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Dragonlady » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:23 am

GoFigure wrote:
chuckiem wrote:
SHORT DANCE RESULTS talk about NATIONAL INFLATION !! :roll:



That is just plain stupid. Hugely inflated scores are no use for anyone.


Unfortunately, they give casual fans of the teams false expectations as to their international scoring potential, so that when these teams compete against other nations these same fans are disappointed in the results, or they think their teams were robbed.

Having said that, I will be interesting to see what kinds of scores will be given to Virtue & Moir on home ice. Or how Chock & Bates will be scored at home.
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:56 pm

Canada is pretty generous with scores, too. Look at these 2016 Nationals scores for Weaver / Poje: 191.73 76.20 115.53

Those scores are higher than what V/M scored in Sochi! No wonder they were disappointed with the personal best FD score of 110.18 they got at 2016 Worlds.
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby rosima » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:54 pm

With what we have seen so far, is it safe to assume that in Ice Dance, the top 10 at Worlds with have 3 American teams, 3 Canadian, 2 Russian, 1 French and 1 Italian?
Hard to predict the order which will make it more exciting.
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby tennisfan » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:50 am

chuckiem wrote:Canada is pretty generous with scores, too. Look at these 2016 Nationals scores for Weaver / Poje: 191.73 76.20 115.53

Those scores are higher than what V/M scored in Sochi! No wonder they were disappointed with the personal best FD score of 110.18 they got at 2016 Worlds.


I think Weaver/Poje were disappointed with their scores because they didn't skate that well and they admitted to it in an interview on the CBC.
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Mike » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:36 am

wmari wrote:Thank you Jonas, good summary of Rus ladies' field.

As to myself I've got sick of this carousel of wonder babies. I agree with A.Mishin who calls ISU to increase the age till 17-18 y.o. for transition to senior's level so we can enjoy skaters like Pogo, Tuk, Sotnikova, Lipni a bit longer. Look at Radionova - was an unbeatable baby, once grown she was beaten by superbabies just like her in the past




Radionova has potential as a pro/ show skater. Plenty of talent and charisma.
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Jonas » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:21 pm

Satoko Miyahara is reportedly injured with a stress fracture in her left hip joint requiring 4 weeks' rest. As such Miyahara has withdrawn from Four Continents and the Asian Games. She intends to prepare for Worlds after the rest period. Rika Hongo replaces her at Four Continents; Kaori Sakamoto replaces her at Asian Games.

I would've liked to see Miyahara try to fend off Kaetlyn Osmond for her Four Continents title defense, but I do hope she makes it healthy to Helsinki.

Your thoughts...
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Maleeva » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:37 pm

I hope so too Jonas. The Russian ladies need some competition!
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Winnipeg » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:45 pm

Kaetlyn and Gabrielle will give them lots of competition! :D :D
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby chuckiem » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:01 pm

Not if they skate the way they did at Canadian Nationals......
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby Winnipeg » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:15 pm

chuckiem wrote:Not if they skate the way they did at Canadian Nationals......



Agree, they will have to skate perfectly. I think they can do it though. :D
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby ihsia » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:43 pm

Asian winter game
Feb 23, 2017
Short Dance

1WANG Shiyue CHN 66.02
LIU Xinyu

2 MURAMOTO Kana JPN 64.74
REED Chris

3 CHEN Hong CHN 59.02
ZHAO Yan

4 LEE Hojung KOR 51.56
KAM Richard Kang In

5 MORI Ibuki JPN 48.84
SUZUKI Kentaro

6 FRIEND Matilda AUS 42.56
BADAOUI William

7 MATHEW Aldrin Elizabeth IND 10.18
YAMA Anup Kumar
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby ihsia » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:45 pm

Asian Winter Game
Feb. 23, 2017

Ladies Short

1 CHOI Dabin KOR 61.30
2 HONGO Rika JPN 60.98
3 ZHAO Ziquan CHN 58.90
4 LI Zijun CHN 58.65
5 CRAINE Kailani AUS 55.02
6 TURSYNBAEVA Elizabet KAZ 53.16
7 YU Shuran SGP 50.99
8 MAMBEKOVA Aiza KAZ 49.99
9 MA Maisy Hiu Ching HKG 47.81
10 LIN Amy TPE 47.15
11 ING Chloe SGP 44.64
12 SO Joanna HKG 41.65
13 KIM Nahyun KOR 40.80
14 CABILES Samantha PHI 28.54
15 LAMSAM Thita THA 26.89
16 RATTANADILOK NA PHUKET Promsan THA 25.71
17 MOHD AMINUDIN Aina Sorfina MAS 25.16
18 CASAPAO Shayanne PHI 24.33
19 LARI Zahra UAE 23.31
20 PUTRI Tasya INA 22.21
21 NESTEROVA Aleksandra KGZ 21.69
22 LINGAM Aneeta MAS 18.67
23 ISMAGULOVA Laura KGZ 18.53
24 AYINIE SULAEMAN Nurul INA 16.81
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby ihsia » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:07 pm

Asian Winter Games Sapporo Japan
2/24

Pairs Short
1 YU Xiaoyu / ZHANG Hao CHN 77.90
2 PENG Cheng / JIN Yang CHN 67.24
3 RYOM Tae Ok / KIM Ju Sik PRK 65.22
4 KIM Su Yeon / KIM Hyungtae KOR 49.28
5 TAKAHASHI Narumi / SHIBATA Ryo JPN 48.78
6 KIM Kyueun / KAM Alex Kang Chan KOR 46.64
7 STEPHENS Paris / DODDS Matthew AUS 29.52
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby ihsia » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:11 pm

Asian Winter Games
2/24

Free dance:

1 WANG Shiyue CHN 98.26
LIU Xinyu
2 MURAMOTO Kana JPN 94.40
REED Chris
3 CHEN Hong CHN 83.40
ZHAO Yan
4 LEE Hojung KOR 79.66
KAM Richard Kang In
5 MORI Ibuki JPN 75.28
SUZUKI Kentaro
6 FRIEND Matilda AUS 63.42
BADAOUI William
7 MATHEW Aldrin Elizabeth IND 21.10
YAMA Anup Kumar


Final results:

1 WANG Shiyue / LIU Xinyu CHN 1 1 164.28
2 MURAMOTO Kana / REED Chris JPN 2 2 159.14
3 CHEN Hong / ZHAO Yan CHN 3 3 142.42
4 LEE Hojung / KAM Richard Kang In KOR 4 4 131.22
5 MORI Ibuki / SUZUKI Kentaro JPN 5 5 124.12
6 FRIEND Matilda / BADAOUI William AUS 6 6 105.98
7 MATHEW Aldrin Elizabeth / YAMA Anup Kumar IND 7 7 31.28
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby ihsia » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:12 pm

Asian Winter Games Sapporo
2/24

Men's short

1 JIN Boyang CHN 92.86
2 UNO Shoma JPN 92.43
3 YAN Han CHN 91.56
4 MURA Takahito JPN 90.32
5 KERRY Brendan AUS 82.74
6 KIM Jinseo KOR 76.99
7 MARTINEZ Michael Christian PHI 76.53
8 GE Misha UZB 76.18
9 TEN Denis KAZ 72.98
10 YEE Julian Zhi Jie MAS 72.75
11 TSAO Chih-I TPE 63.68
12 CHEW Kai Xiang MAS 58.86
13 LEE June Hyoung KOR 57.67
14 RAKIMGALIEV Abzal KAZ 54.80
15 LEE Harry Hau Yin HKG 48.65
16 LEE Meng Ju TPE 44.49
17 ALPE Jules Vince PHI 42.38
18 LEUNG Kwun Hung HKG 37.16
19 SUTRISNA William INA 34.85
20 RAMADHAN Dwiki Eka INA 24.07
21 PINGLE Nikhil IND 17.30
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Re: RUSSIAN AND JAPANESE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Postby ihsia » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:50 pm

Asian Winter Games Sapporo
SAT 25 FEB 2017

Pairs Free

1 YU Xiaoyu / ZHANG Hao CHN 145.98
2 PENG Cheng / JIN Yang CHN 129.82
3 RYOM Tae Ok / KIM Ju Sik PRK 112.18
4 KIM Su Yeon / KIM Hyungtae KOR 100.12
5 KIM Kyueun / KAM Alex Kang Chan KOR 95.24
6 TAKAHASHI Narumi / SHIBATA Ryo JPN 81.75
7 STEPHENS Paris / DODDS Matthew AUS 62.38

Final:

1 YU Xiaoyu / ZHANG Hao CHN 1 1 223.88
2 PENG Cheng / JIN Yang CHN 2 2 197.06
3 RYOM Tae Ok / KIM Ju Sik PRK 3 3 177.40
4 KIM Su Yeon / KIM Hyungtae KOR 4 4 149.40
5 KIM Kyueun / KAM Alex Kang Chan KOR 6 5 141.88
6 TAKAHASHI Narumi / SHIBATA Ryo JPN 5 6 130.53
7 STEPHENS Paris / DODDS Matthew AUS 7 7 91.90
Withdrawn
SUZAKI Miu / KIHARA Ryuichi JPN - - -

PRK actually medaled!
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