GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby chuckiem » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:55 pm

Here are the GPF rosters and alternates:

SENIOR MEN

30 [15,15] 578.36 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP
30 [15,15] 546.67 Patrick CHAN CAN
28 [13,15] 564.53 Yuzuru HANYU JPN
28 [15,13] 564.41 Shoma UNO JPN
22 [09,13] 533.71 Nathan CHEN USA
22 [11,11] 528.96 Adam RIPPON USA

Alternates:
20 [07,13] 523.62 Boyang JIN CHN
20 [09,11] 489.04 Sergei VORONOV RUS
20 [11,09] 485.39 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR

SENIOR LADIES

30 [15,15] 442.30 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA RUS
30 [15,15] 426.07 Anna POGORILAYA RUS
28 [13,15] 401.50 Elena RADIONOVA RUS
26 [13,13] 402.45 Kaetlyn OSMOND CAN
24 [13,11] 396.23 Maria SOTSKOVA RUS
24 [11,13] 390.08 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN

Alternates:
20 [15,05] 377.82 Ashley WAGNER USA
20 [09,11] 380.57 Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA RUS
20 [11,09] 380.20 Mai MIHARA JPN

SENIOR PAIRS

30 [15,15] 422.86 DUHAMEL / RADFORD CAN
30 [15,15] 418.48 SAVCHENKO / MASSOT FRA
28 [13,15] 405.84 YU / ZHANG CHN
26 [13,13] 394.83 PENG / JIN CHN
24 [11,13] 392.88 TARASOVA / MOROZOV RUS
22 [15,07] 380.68 SEGUIN / BILODEAU CAN

Alternates:
22 [13,09] 390.32 ZABIJAKO / ENBERT RUS
22 [13,09] 380.88 DENNEY / FRAZIER USA
22 [11,11] 381.76 ILIUSHECHKINA / MOSCOVITCH CAN

SENIOR ICE DANCE

30 [15,15] 385.30 VIRTUE / MOIR CAN
30 [15,15] 370.88 SHIBUTANI / SHIBUTANI USA
28 [15,13] 380.16 PAPADAKIS / CIZERON FRA
26 [11,15] 361.45 BOBROVA / SOLOVIEV RUS
26 [13,13] 370.37 CHOCK / BATES USA
26 [13,13] 350.35 HUBBELL / DONOHUE USA

Alternates:

24 [11,13] 360.11 WEAVER / POJE CAN
22 [11,11] 353.35 GILLES / POIRIER CAN
20 [09,11] 360.77 CAPPELLINI / LANOTTE ITA
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby Maleeva » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:59 pm

I wish the ISU could reward the best crowd of the GP series. For me it would easily be Japan. I love how the Japanese clap with the music when possible and even have the ability to clap slower and faster as needed LOL. They also cheer so nicely for good skating, regardless of nationality.

They also continue to have the best size crowds. The only time I could see one empty seat was early in the Pairs and Dance programs, otherwise every seat was taken. Wish every GP event could be so full of spectators for the skaters. I'm sure the skaters must love skating in Japan.
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby tennisfan » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:47 am

Figure Skating is a niche sport in much of the world and so only attracts the real die hard fans. Plus, I don't think the schedule really helps to get and keep people in there seats. 8-10 hours of skating in one day with only short breaks between events and then come back and do that again the next day.
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby GoFigure » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:32 am

Let's look at the final event by event:
Men: Javi has been the most consistent of men this season. But if Yuzu repeats last year's performances, he is unbeatable. Patrick's chances rely solely on others' meltdowns.
Ladies: A Russian sweep as usual. Personally I'm rooting for Anna because she has improved so much mentally and she skates and doesn't appear to have a grand mal seizure as the other Russians. Evgenia's FS can be summarized in three (3) words: inappropriate, tacky and tasteless. But she will probably win.
Pairs: This could be interesting. It is basically anyone's game: although D/R and S/M (sic!) have an advantage they haven't been that convincing. Both teams take big risks in their programs, which I like very much.
Dance: V/M and P/C are the competitors, others are bystanders. P/C really have to raise their PSt level in SD from 2 to at least 3 in order to challenge V/M.
What do you think?
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby Jonas » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:33 pm

Savchenko & Massot are reportedly out of the Grand Prix Final. Sorry, I don't speak German.

If true, Zabijako & Enbert, currently listed for Golden Spin of Zagreb, move out of 1st alternate and go to Marseille instead.

Your thoughts...
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby Thaliana » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:05 pm

Translation:

The participation of Obersdorf's pairs Skaters Aliona Savchenko and Bruno Massot at the Grand-Prix-Final of figure skating next week in Marseille is continuing to be under question.
After another medical examination on Wednesday it will be decided whether a start in the french metropol is possible and sensible.
32-year-old Savchenko suffered a partial tear of the interior ligament in her right ancle two weeks ago during Trophée de Paris. Still, the duo won the competition in the french capital.
"Aliona is fine considering the circumstances, but during high strains the pain is still not gone completely" says Coach Alexander König on Monday to "SID". If the vice-european champions should call of their start on Wednesday in Marseille, the german Championships in Berlin on 16./27. December would be their next competition.


... Sounds as if they are trying to participate and are going to make the decision at the last moment. If they would pull out on Wednesday, they won't be replaced, won't they?
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby Thaliana » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:14 pm

I really enjoy Savchenko/Massot.
During the last years of the partnership with Scholkowy their Skating seemed a bit strained and burdened, trying very much to do something Special, but mistakes and injuries kept throwing them off. With Massot, the programs to me feel fresh and very confident again.

While I would love for S/M them to compete here and see the heads-to-heads among the top pairs, I do want them to be healthy for Worlds. Hope they don't exacerbate the injury if they opt to compete.
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby chuckiem » Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:25 pm

The ice dance event in Marseille should be interesting, as V/M and P/C will be duking it out on P/C's home ice. V/M would really like to win this one, as the GPF title is the only one they have never earned.
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby Maleeva » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:52 pm

I hope S and M will be ok. They should protect their health for Worlds!

I did not know that V and M had never won the GP final! Skating on home ice will definitely help G and G on PCS. But it is the technical that hurt them at NHK. If they skate cleanly it should be a fascinating dance event! V and M are the ultimate competitors.
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby Jonas » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:43 pm

Here's my take event by event:

PAIRS:
I'd pencil in a duel between Duhamel & Radford and Savchenko & Massot, if they're still a go, for the title here with Jin & Zhang and Seguin & Bilodeau duking it out for the bronze.

MEN:
If Adam Rippon can deliver two clean, solid programs with at least one clean, fully rotated quad between the two programs, then he can consider it a very good mid-season accomplishment and would place him in very good stead heading to Kansas City for his US title defense. The podium is quite simply out of reach with a much simpler jump offering.

Ditto for Nathan Chen: he can consider it a good week if he can skate two solid performances. I'll wager that he'll land at least three of his five or six quad attempts. Because of his ambitious jumping though, Chen, unlike Rippon, can sneak onto the podium if one of the three World Champs gives away too many points.

After NHK, I'd say Hanyu is the favorite and he probably has a little bit of a cushion over the others, though Chan and/or Fernandez can easily take the title away. With all of them delivering close to their planned content, I'd say Shoma Uno is probably the one to be bumped off the podium, though Uno has had more success with his 4flip attempts than Chan has with any of his 4Salchow attempts, so...

To me the men's event will probably be the most exciting -- and the men's FS closes the event!!

LADIES:
I'd like to see Pogorilaya really challenge Medvedeva here, and IMHO, I think it can really happen. If Katelyn Osmond can prevent a Russian sweep, if not beat Pogorilaya again, then I'd say it'd be a great week for her! I'd also like to see if Mai Mihara can beat Satoko Miyahara here two weeks before Japanese Nationals -- doable, IMO.

JR. LADIES:
I'm also going to keep a side eye on the junior ladies -- all of whom can challenge their senior lady counterparts, at least in the jumps department. Kaori Sakamoto, in particular, with two solid skates and a medal, can enter the conversation for the Japanese World Team.

JR. MEN:
I also want to mention Alexei Krasnozohn. If there's someone who can make some unexpected noise among the senior men in Kansas City, I suspect it'd be him.

Your thoughts...
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby chuckiem » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:28 pm

Jonas, Alexei Krasnozhon is competing JUNIOR at Nationals, not Senior. I think he wants the US Junior title before he moves up to Senior. His only real competition in Juniors is Eric Sjoberg, who is returning from a year away with serious injury. Eric is very good, but he still doesn't have a stable 3a.

What will add some drama to the Senior Dance competition is the tech panel. The Tech Controller is Christine Hurth from France. The Tech Specialist is Canadian Marie Bowness, and the Assistant Tech Specialist is American Judy Blumberg. Wow---I'd love to have earphones into THOSE discussions. And to top it all off, the Referee is none other than Alla Shekhovtseva.

BTW, Savchenko/Massot are out and have been replaced by Zabijako/Enbert.

Osmond has to skate a squeaky-clean FS to have any chance to prevent a Russian sweep. The one thing she has going for her is that the caller in the ladies event is Canadian.
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby Jonas » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:22 pm

Ahhh, I see; I presumed Krasnozhon moved up to senior domestically. Given how everyone is skating, I thought a top 5 finish in senior would've been a very realistic goal. Anyway...
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby Maleeva » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:39 pm

Jonas Mai Mihara is not in the GP final so she cannot beat Satoko in France. But I agree Japanese nationals will be interesting. I think you meant Yu and Zhang will duke it out for Bronze but now they should have a great shot at the silver and challenge D&R for gold. I have to say I find Yu's back just exquisite. She looks like a ballerina on the ice and helps soften the "tough guyness" possessed by Zhang.

The men's event here should prove amazing. I really want Adam to do well after having such a good GP series.

The dance will also be tight to call. I agree with Chuckie, what a dance panel!!! The Shibs say they have made technical improvements to their short program, which has held their scores back. we shall see.

Ladies, I prefer POGO over Medved, so cheering for her and hoping Kaetlyn will somehow skate clean and apply some sort of pressure on these strong Russian ladies.
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby chuckiem » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:20 pm

RESULTS - JUNIOR SHORT DANCE

1 Alla LOBODA / Pavel DROZD RUS 67.58 34.86 32.72 8.04 8.11 8.36 8.14 8.25 0.00 6
2 Rachel PARSONS / Michael PARSONS USA 66.91 35.11 31.80 7.96 7.79 7.96 7.96 8.07 0.00 4
3 Lorraine McNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA 63.73 32.67 31.06 7.61 7.75 7.68 7.96 7.82 0.00 2
4 Christina CARREIRA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA 61.39 32.09 29.30 7.21 7.14 7.43 7.43 7.43 0.00 3
5 Angelique ABACHKINA / Louis THAURON FRA 60.08 31.34 28.74 7.04 6.89 7.43 7.29 7.29 0.00 5
6 Anastasia SHPILEVAYA / Grigory SMIRNOV RUS 59.29 30.75 28.54 7.07 7.00 7.14 7.29 7.18 0.00 1

RESULTS - JUNIOR MEN

1 Dmitri ALIEV RUS 81.37 43.90 37.47 7.50 7.29 7.50 7.57 7.61 0.00 3 3a, 3z+3t, 3lo
2 Alexander SAMARIN RUS 81.08 43.76 37.32 7.43 7.21 7.68 7.39 7.61 0.00 5 3a, 3lo, 3z+3t
3 Roman SAVOSIN RUS 72.98 39.37 33.61 6.79 6.54 6.82 6.64 6.82 0.00 1 3a, 3z+3t, 3lo
4 Jun Hwan CHA KOR 71.85 35.60 36.25 7.36 6.96 7.18 7.36 7.39 0.00 4 3z-so-nc, 3a, 3lo
5 Alexei KRASNOZHON USA 71.48 37.13 34.35 6.96 6.79 6.82 6.96 6.82 0.00 6 3lo, 3a-so, 3z+3t
6 Ilia SKIRDA RUS 68.30 35.84 32.46 6.50 6.46 6.39 6.61 6.50 0.00 2 3z!+3t, 3lo, 2a

RESULTS - JUNIOR PAIRS

1 Anastasia MISHINA / Vladislav MIRZOEV RUS 64.73 37.19 27.54 6.82 6.68 7.04 6.89 7.00 0.00 2
2 Anna DUSKOVA / Martin BIDAR CZE 61.38 33.78 27.60 6.96 6.82 6.79 7.04 6.89 0.00 3
3 Alina USTIMKINA / Nikita VOLODIN RUS 59.05 33.99 25.06 6.46 6.11 6.29 6.29 6.18 0.00 1
4 Aleksandra BOIKOVA / Dmitrii KOZLOVSKII RUS 58.75 32.66 26.09 6.61 6.46 6.46 6.57 6.50 0.00 6
5 Ekaterina ALEXANDROVSKAYA / Harley WINDSOR AUS 57.08 32.39 25.69 6.54 6.25 6.46 6.50 6.36 1.00 5
6 Amina ATAKHANOVA / Ilia SPIRIDONOV RUS 56.78 31.37 26.41 6.61 6.43 6.57 6.79 6.61 1.00 4

RESULTS - JUNIOR LADIES

1 Alina ZAGITOVA RUS 70.92 41.12 29.80 7.43 7.21 7.57 7.54 7.50 0.00 5 3z+3t, 3lo, 2a
2 Kaori SAKAMOTO JPN 64.48 36.87 27.61 7.14 6.61 7.11 6.86 6.79 0.00 2 3lo, 3f+3t, 2a
3 Anastasia GUBANOVA RUS 60.30 31.90 29.40 7.36 7.18 7.25 7.50 7.46 1.00 3 2a, 3z↓-nc, 3lo
4 Elizaveta NUGUMANOVA RUS 58.34 30.83 28.51 7.11 6.89 7.14 7.21 7.29 1.00 4 3z<↓-nc, 3lo, 2a
5 Rika KIHIRA JPN 54.78 28.18 27.60 7.11 6.71 6.82 6.93 6.93 1.00 1 2a, 3z<<↓-nc, 2lo
wd Marin HONDA JPN (sick)

Not a great event for the junior ladies....

SENIOR PAIRS and MEN up next....
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby Dragonlady » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:35 pm

A few years ago, it appeared that Pairs skating was on the decline and would soon disappear. The development ranks were thinning, and there weren't enough Jr. Pairs to fill competitions. Now there is a resurgence in Pairs skating. Watching these Juniors, I can see the future of the sport, and I think it has a great future.
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby Winnipeg » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:26 pm

Says they should know by Wednesday whether they will compete. She has had a knee injury/strain
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby chuckiem » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:46 pm

RESULTS - SENIOR PAIRS

Not quite as expected .....

1 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV RUS 78.60 43.49 35.11 8.68 8.61 9.00 8.71 8.89 0.00 2
2 Xiaoyu YU / Hao ZHANG CHN 75.34 41.83 33.51 8.54 8.18 8.36 8.43 8.39 0.00 6
3 Megan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD CAN 71.44 38.44 34.00 8.61 8.39 8.43 8.57 8.50 1.00 3
4 Cheng PENG / Yang JIN CHN 70.84 38.70 32.14 7.93 7.75 8.21 8.07 8.21 0.00 1
5 Natalia ZABIJAKO / Alexander ENBERT RUS 65.79 34.40 31.39 7.86 7.64 7.89 7.93 7.93 0.00 4
6 Julianne SEGUIN / Charlie BILODEAU CAN 60.86 31.49 31.37 7.82 7.79 7.64 8.00 7.96 2.00 5


RESULTS - SENIOR MEN

1 Yuzuru HANYU JPN 106.53 59.18 47.35 9.39 9.25 9.64 9.50 9.57 0.00 6 4lo, 4s+3t, 3a WOW!!
2 Patrick CHAN CAN 99.76 52.66 47.10 9.43 9.36 9.46 9.39 9.46 0.00 2 4t+3t, 3a, 3z
3 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP 91.76 47.45 45.31 9.07 9.00 8.71 9.21 9.32 1.00 1 4t+3t, 4s-fo, 3a↓
4 Shoma UNO JPN 86.82 44.38 43.44 8.82 8.43 8.61 8.79 8.79 1.00 3 4f, 4t<<↓-nc, 3a
5 Nathan CHEN USA 85.30 45.62 40.68 8.18 7.96 8.04 8.32 8.18 1.00 4 4z-to+3t, 4<f↓, 3a
6 Adam RIPPON USA 83.93 41.37 42.56 8.39 8.14 8.82 8.46 8.75 0.00 5 3f+3t<, 3a, 3z
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby Dragonlady » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:52 am

Still not fully sold on Hanyu's Prince program. And he still hasn't skated it completely clean! I'm trying to imagine what it will score if he does!

Highlight of the day for me was Patrick Chan's sublime Beatles program. The feet, the timing, those edges. The jumps!!! Best he's ever skated.
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby chuckiem » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:16 am

Hanyu's program didn't have to be perfect to knock it out of the ballpark! He was fantastic! The only 'imperfection' was the extreme lean on his quad loop, but he did land it, and then he went on to land a beautiful 4s+3t and an enormous 3a that covered about 1/3 of the rink. And he did it all while playing rock star to the audience while they swooned.

Chan was smooth and clean, but after all, he should have been, considering that his technical content was easier than all the other men except Rippon. But compared to Hanyu, he was just a little bit....boring.
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Re: GRAND PRIX FINAL 12/8-11 MARSEILLE FRA

Postby Ellen » Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:40 am

Tarasova-Morozov were so good! All elements were made at the highest levels. Seven points ahead of World champions. I wish they skate with same energy and confidence in the FP.

To my taste the Duhamel's bodysuits costume was not "for her". Chuckeim, how do you like Meagan's "hooves"? Remember your last year comment - you wrote that Evgenia Medvedeva's tights over boots made it look as huge hooves? To me Meagan's black tights over white boots look more like the hooves :) :)
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